[openstack-dev] Rescinding the M name decision
bluejay.ahn at gmail.com
Thu Jul 9 06:03:50 UTC 2015
First of all, I really appreciate Itoh's research on each name.
In my personal opinion, I don't see any significant problem using words in
the list except those that have legal issue.
I am realizing that keeping proper line between "significant concern" vs
"negligible concern" would be very tricky, especially when it comes down to
regional culture and history. However, I will do my best to help this
Anyway, I do hope we select a release name which can be loved by everyone
in the community, and honor all the contributors in Japan hosting Tokyo
On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 2:16 PM Masanori Itoh <masanori.itoh at gmail.com>
> Hello community,
> | If anyone has concerns about any of these potential choices,
> | please raise them now.
> As one of common Japanese, I would like to express my personal opinion
> related to *the concern* raised recently.
> 1. Names that remind particular companies
> I don't write concrete company names here, but the following names
> remind us (for Japanese, at least) very particular company names.
> This is because there are usually HQs or famous facilities of those
> - Mita
> - Mitaka
> - Musashino
> - Meguro
> 2. Trademarks / Exact (major) company name
> - Mizuho is one of the 3 mega-banks in Japan.
> 3. Historical concerns
> The below is some information that could raise similar argument.
> - War ship names
> During the WW2, there were several war ships with names:
> - Musashi
> - Mizuho
> - War related places
> - Mitaka
> In those days, there was a large aircraft factory that
> produced including Zero fighter.
> - Potential concern
> - Marunouchi
> 'Marunouchi' has a close relationship with the Imperial Palace.
> In the above, although I did my best, I might have missed some more
> But, anyway, I have no choice other than stating the above publicly
> in order to prove that I didn't intentionally hide anything .
> Best regards,
> On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 11:40 PM, Monty Taylor <mordred at inaugust.com>
> > Hi everyone!
> > In light of issues raised concerning the initially selected name for the
> > M release (Meiji), that name will not be used.
> > It turns out fully open community and fully inclusive collaboration is a
> > hard thing to get right. On the one hand, we do not want to exclude
> > anyone's input or contribution. On the other hand, we do not want the
> > result of that openness to result in effective exclusion or seeming
> > persecution of a minority group.
> > We tried very hard with this naming election to ensure that everyone was
> > able to participate in nominations, and that everyone was able to
> > participate in elections without the sense that someone had arbitrarily
> > limited anyone else's contribution unduly.
> > There are ways in which this was successful and ways in which is was
> > not. Clearly the cultural and historical connotations of this choice are
> > an area where the democratic process did not serve us, and I expect us
> > to circle back and do work to figure out how to do better in our next
> > iteration.
> > The foundation team is doing legal due diligence on the next set of
> > names in the list below (#4-6) and we expect to have an update within a
> > week. If anyone has concerns about any of these potential choices,
> > please raise them now.
> > 1. Mita (三田) (Condorcet winner: wins contests with all other choices)
> > 2. Minato (港) loses to Mita (三田) by 954–913
> > 3. Meiji (明治) loses to Mita (三田) by 1034–873, loses to Minato (港)
> > by 1052–879
> > 4. Mitaka (三鷹) loses to Mita (三田) by 1094–702, loses to Meiji (明
> > 治) by 1012–870
> > 5. Musashi (武蔵) loses to Mita (三田) by 1093–829, loses to Mitaka (三
> > 鷹) by 971–892
> > 6. Meguro (目黒) loses to Mita (三田) by 1137–690, loses to Musashi (武
> > 蔵) by 958–872
> > 7. Minami (みなみ) loses to Mita (三田) by 1183–621, loses to Meguro
> > (目黒) by 858–857
> > 8. Mejiro (目白) loses to Mita (三田) by 1294–485, loses to Minami (み
> > なみ) by 990–658
> > 9. Mizuho (瑞穂) loses to Mita (三田) by 1338–421, loses to Mejiro (目
> > 白) by 905–625
> > 10. Musashino (武蔵野) loses to Mita (三田) by 1472–305, loses to
> > Mizuho (瑞穂) by 1034–456
> > 11. Marunouchi (丸の内) loses to Mita (三田) by 1505–275, loses to
> > Musashino (武蔵野) by 931–481
> > Monty
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