[openstack-dev] [magnum][nova][ironic] Magnum Milestone #2 blueprints - request for comments

Steven Dake sdake at redhat.com
Sun Jan 18 16:39:58 UTC 2015


On 01/18/2015 09:23 AM, Jay Lau wrote:
> Thanks Steven, more questions/comments in line.
>
> 2015-01-19 0:11 GMT+08:00 Steven Dake <sdake at redhat.com 
> <mailto:sdake at redhat.com>>:
>
>     On 01/18/2015 06:39 AM, Jay Lau wrote:
>>     Thanks Steven, just some questions/comments here:
>>
>>     1) For native docker support, do we have some project to handle
>>     the network? The current native docker support did not have any
>>     logic for network management, are we going to leverage neutron or
>>     nova-network just like nova-docker for this?
>     We can just use flannel for both these use cases.  One way to
>     approach using flannel is that we can expect docker networks will
>     always be setup the same way, connecting into a flannel network.
>
> What about introducing neutron/nova-network support for native docker 
> container just like nova-docker?
>
>

Does that mean introducing an agent on the uOS?  I'd rather not have 
agents, since all of these uOS systems have wonky filesystem layouts and 
there is not an easy way to customize them, with dib for example.

>>     2) For k8s, swarm, we can leverage the scheduler in those
>>     container management tools, but what about docker native support?
>>     How to handle resource scheduling for native docker containers?
>>
>     I am not clear on how to handle native Docker scheduling if a bay
>     has more then one node.  I keep hoping someone in the community
>     will propose something that doesn't introduce an agent dependency
>     in the OS.
>
> My thinking is as this: Add a new scheduler just like what nova/cinder 
> is doing now and then we can migrate to gantt once it become mature, 
> comments?

Cool that WFM.  Too bad we can't just use gantt out the gate.

Regards
-steve

>
>     Regards
>     -steve
>
>
>>     Thanks!
>>
>>     2015-01-18 8:51 GMT+08:00 Steven Dake <sdake at redhat.com
>>     <mailto:sdake at redhat.com>>:
>>
>>         Hi folks and especially Magnum Core,
>>
>>         Magnum Milestone #1 should released early this coming week. 
>>         I wanted to kick off discussions around milestone #2 since
>>         Milestone #1 development is mostly wrapped up.
>>
>>         The milestone #2 blueprints:
>>         https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/milestone-2
>>
>>         The overall goal of Milestone #1 was to make Magnum usable
>>         for developers.  The overall goal of Milestone #2 is to make
>>         Magnum usable by operators and their customers.  To do this
>>         we are implementing blueprints like multi-tenant,
>>         horizontal-scale, and the introduction of coreOS in addition
>>         to Fedora Atomic as a Container uOS.  We are also plan to
>>         introduce some updates to allow bays to be more scalable.  We
>>         want bays to scale to more nodes manually (short term), as
>>         well as automatically (longer term).  Finally we want to tidy
>>         up some of the nit-picky things about Magnum that none of the
>>         core developers really like at the moment.  One example is
>>         the magnum-bay-status blueprint which will prevent the
>>         creation of pods/services/replicationcontrollers until a bay
>>         has completed orchestration via Heat. Our final significant
>>         blueprint for milestone #2 is the ability to launch our
>>         supported uOS on bare metal using Nova's Ironic plugin and
>>         the baremetal flavor.  As always, we want to improve our unit
>>         testing from what is now 70% to ~80% in the next milestone.
>>
>>         Please have a look at the blueprints and feel free to comment
>>         on this thread or in the blueprints directly.  If you would
>>         like to see different blueprints tackled during milestone #2
>>         that feedback is welcome, or if you think the core team[1] is
>>         on the right track, we welcome positive kudos too.
>>
>>         If you would like to see what we tackled in Milestone #1, the
>>         code should be tagged and ready to run Tuesday January 20th. 
>>         Master should work well enough now, and the developer
>>         quickstart guide is mostly correct.
>>
>>         The Milestone #1 bluerpints are here for comparison sake:
>>         https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/milestone-1
>>
>>         Regards,
>>         -steve
>>
>>
>>         [1] https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/473,members
>>
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>>
>>     Jay Lau (Guangya Liu)
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