[openstack-dev] [Neutron] A big tent home for Neutron backend code

Kyle Mestery mestery at mestery.com
Tue Apr 28 19:21:19 UTC 2015

On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 8:00 AM, Russell Bryant <rbryant at redhat.com> wrote:

> On 04/27/2015 08:52 PM, Armando M. wrote:
> >
> >     Any project that fails to meet the criteria later can be dropped at
> any
> >     time.  For example, if some repo is clearly unmaintained, it can be
> >     removed.
> >
> >
> > If we open the door to excluding projects down the road, then wouldn't
> > we need to take into account some form of 3rd party CI validation as
> > part of the criteria to 'ensure quality' (or lack thereof)? Would you
> > consider that part of the inclusion criteria too?
> My suggestion would be to use the state of 3rd party CI validation in
> whatever is used to indicate the current level of maturity, but not to
> directly decide what's considered in the OpenStack Neutron project.
> If we take networking-ovn as an example, it's very actively developed
> and certainly "one of us", in my opinion.  It has CI jobs, but they're
> not running tempest yet.  It seems wrong to say it's not an OpenStack
> project because of that.  What we need is to be able to clearly
> communicate that it's very new and immature, which is something different.
> For something that has been around much longer and has had CI fully
> working, I would view it a bit different.  If the tests break and stay
> broken for a long time, that sounds like an early indicator that the
> code is unmaintained and may get dropped and moved to "openstack-attic"
> at some point.
I think in general, outside the scope of this discussion, third-party CI
needs some re-thinking in Neutron. We currently have no automated way to
validate any of it, so it's a best effort affair. Perhaps discussing this
at the Summit would be something useful to do in person, I'll add that to
the agenda.


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