[openstack-dev] [Nova] What's holding nova development back?

Jay Pipes jaypipes at gmail.com
Tue Sep 16 13:39:13 UTC 2014


On 09/16/2014 04:12 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 07:30:26AM +1000, Michael Still wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 12:30 AM, Russell Bryant <rbryant at redhat.com> wrote:
>>> On 09/15/2014 05:42 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
>>>> On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 07:07:13AM +1000, Michael Still wrote:
>>>>> Just an observation from the last week or so...
>>>>>
>>>>> The biggest problem nova faces at the moment isn't code review latency. Our
>>>>> biggest problem is failing to fix our bugs so that the gate is reliable.
>>>>> The number of rechecks we've done in the last week to try and land code is
>>>>> truly startling.
>>>>
>>>> I consider both problems to be pretty much equally as important. I don't
>>>> think solving review latency or test reliabilty in isolation is enough to
>>>> save Nova. We need to tackle both problems as a priority. I tried to avoid
>>>> getting into my concerns about testing in my mail on review team bottlenecks
>>>> since I think we should address the problems independantly / in parallel.
>>>
>>> Agreed with this.  I don't think we can afford to ignore either one of them.
>>
>> Yes, that was my point. I don't mind us debating how to rearrange
>> hypervisor drivers. However, if we think that will solve all our
>> problems we are confused.
>>
>> So, how do we get people to start taking bugs / gate failures more
>> seriously?
>
> I think we should have formal "Bug squash wednesdays"  (or pick another
> day). By this I mean that the core reviewers will focus their attention
> on just reviews that are related to bug fixing. They will also try to
> work on bugs if they have time and encourage everyone else involved in
> Nova todo the same. We'd have a team of people in the Nova IRC channel
> to publicise & co-ordinate bug squashing, perhaps  with a list of top
> 20 bugs we want to attack this week. I wouldn't focus just on gate bugs
> here since many a pretty darn hard & so would put off many people. Have
> a mix of bugs of varying difficulties to point people to. Make this a
> regular fortnightly or even weekly event which we publicise in advance
> on mailing lists, etc.

+1, I've suggested similar in the past.

-jay




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