[openstack-dev] [Fuel] Experimental features and how they affect HCF

Anastasia Urlapova aurlapova at mirantis.com
Thu Sep 11 13:05:46 UTC 2014


> I think we should not count bugs for HCF criteria if they affect only
> experimental feature(s).

+1, absolutely agree, but we should determine count of allowed bugs for
experimental features against severity.

On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 2:13 PM, Nikolay Markov <nmarkov at mirantis.com>
wrote:

> Probably, even "experimental feature" should at least pretend to be
> working, anyway, or it shouldn't be publically announced. But I think
> it's important to describe limitation of this features (or mark some
> of them as "untested") and I think list of known issues with links to
> most important bugs is a good approach. And tags will just make things
> simpler.
>
> On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 1:05 PM, Igor Kalnitsky <ikalnitsky at mirantis.com>
> wrote:
> >> May be we can use tag per feature, for example "zabbix"
> >
> > Tags are ok, but I still think that we can mention at least some
> > significant bugs. For example, if some feature doesn't work in some
> > deployment mode (e.g. simple, with ceilometer, etc) we can at least
> > notify users so they even don't try.
> >
> > Another opinions?
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 11:45 AM, Mike Scherbakov
> > <mscherbakov at mirantis.com> wrote:
> >>> if we point somewhere about knowing issues in those experimental
> features
> >> there are might be dozens of bugs.
> >> May be we can use tag per feature, for example "zabbix", so it will be
> easy
> >> to search in LP all open bugs regarding Zabbix feature?
> >>
> >> On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Igor Kalnitsky <
> ikalnitsky at mirantis.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > I think we should not count bugs for HCF criteria if they affect only
> >>> > experimental feature(s).
> >>>
> >>> +1, I'm totally agree with you - it makes no sense to count
> >>> experimental bugs as HCF criteria.
> >>>
> >>> > Any objections / other ideas?
> >>>
> >>> I think it would be great for customers if we point somewhere about
> >>> knowing issues in those experimental features. IMHO, it should help
> >>> them to understand what's wrong in case of errors and may prevent bug
> >>> duplication in LP.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 10:19 AM, Mike Scherbakov
> >>> <mscherbakov at mirantis.com> wrote:
> >>> > Hi all,
> >>> > what about using "experimental" tag for experimental features?
> >>> >
> >>> > After we implemented feature groups [1], we can divide our features
> and
> >>> > for
> >>> > complex features, or those which don't get enough QA resources in the
> >>> > dev
> >>> > cycle, we can declare as experimental. It would mean that those are
> not
> >>> > production ready features.
> >>> > Giving them live still in experimental mode allows early adopters to
> >>> > give a
> >>> > try and bring a feedback to the development team.
> >>> >
> >>> > I think we should not count bugs for HCF criteria if they affect only
> >>> > experimental feature(s). At the moment, we have Zabbix as
> experimental
> >>> > feature, and Patching of OpenStack [2] is under consideration: if
> today
> >>> > QA
> >>> > doesn't approve it to be as ready for production use, we have no
> other
> >>> > choice. All deadlines passed, and we need to get 5.1 finally out.
> >>> >
> >>> > Any objections / other ideas?
> >>> >
> >>> > [1]
> >>> >
> >>> >
> https://github.com/stackforge/fuel-specs/blob/master/specs/5.1/feature-groups.rst
> >>> > [2] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/fuel/+spec/patch-openstack
> >>> > --
> >>> > Mike Scherbakov
> >>> > #mihgen
> >>> >
> >>> >
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> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Mike Scherbakov
> >> #mihgen
> >>
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> Best regards,
> Nick Markov
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