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On 12/11/14 12:55, Anita Kuno wrote:
> On 11/12/2014 11:06 AM, Salvatore Orlando wrote:
>> On 12 November 2014 09:53, marios <marios at redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 12/11/14 11:18, Anita Kuno wrote:
>>>> On 11/12/2014 08:04 AM, marios wrote:
>>>>> On 12/11/14 04:17, Clint Byrum wrote:
>>>>>> Just as a counter-point: The entire reason that a mid-cycle is an
>>>>>> important thing to do is to achieve higher bandwidth communication
>>> between
>>>>>> contributors. We can do Hangouts all the time and that's certainly a
>>>>>> useful thing. But making the people in the room who have high bandwidth
>>>>>> slow down for those who are at the other end of low-bandwidth may not
>>> be
>>>>>> a productive thing as a whole.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyway, just a thought as somebody who has tried this before.
>>>>>
>>>>> I understand but I am definitely not saying the room should slow down
>>>>> for someone on hangout - heck I'd be ecstatic if microphones are even
>>>>> used). In my experience this can work best if it is understood that
>>>>> remotees have a read-only feed into the room audio (best case + video of
>>>>> slides) - it makes the world of difference compared to say just staring
>>>>> at the etherpad being updated.  I don't see this as having a high cost
>>>>> to setup (just point a laptop at the speaker, end),
>>>>>
>>>>> If you are a remotee and need read/write into the meeeting then you
>>>>> should prepare beforehand and have stuff written down to share. It is
>>>>> only common courtesy, and I absolutely agree it would be in the very
>>>>> least inconsiderate to expect the room to stop/slow down to allow any
>>>>> kind of conversation to happen over hangout. In fact, just click the
>>>>> on-air button and that way you get a youtube link to share, which
>>>>> obviously *is* read-only (r/w participation is limited @ 10 afaik),
>>>>>
>>>>> my 2c, thanks, marios
>>>> You seem to have put quite a bit of thought into this marios, why can't
>>>> you attend? If the reason is purely financial, please approach Kyle in
>>>> private and I will contact him as well to see if we can access some
>>>> finances for folks committed to working on the technical debt for
>>>> neutron that need financial assistance.
>>>
>>> thanks very much for your kind offer Anita :) - my gut feeling is that
>>> this kind of funding shouldn't be used to subsidize travel for corporate
>>> engineers, but it is excellent to know it is there regardles.
>>>
>>
>> You should not see yourself as evil and not worth using foundation budget
>> just because you work for a private enterprise!
>> After all - it's corporations like yours and mine which fund OpenStack.
>> If for any reason your employer can' authorise your travel, and - obviously
>> - if you want to come, you should probably do as Anita suggests.
> Thanks Salvadore.
> 
> Please start by talking to your manager, marios, if they are willing to
> finance any part of your travel (accommodation or food) that is a start.
> We can see about organizing car pooling for you. I have a friend in Lehi
> who has recommended I rent a car which I am planning on doing. We can
> work with others who rent cars to ensure you have a ride to and from the
> airport, to meetings, to restaurants and whereever else you need to travel.
> 
> The main decision point is if you want to come. If you want to come we
> will do our best to help you attend. But only you can make that
> decision. Do let use know what you want.

thanks again Anita and Salvatore: as I said before I don't think it
makes sense for this one (Salv: I am in Cyprus, so there is at least an
additional hop into EU for connection). I will make use of whatever
means are made available for remote participation but to reiterate, I
don't anticipate issues with the l2/dhcp functional tests. If it really
is too much of a pain to setup audio/hangout for remotees then I will do
my best to catchup/follow any related discussions (thanks Salvatore, I
will look out for the testing session/working table or related discussion),

thanks again, have an excellent day!

marios

> 
> Thanks,
> Anita.
>>
>>
>>> To be fair I haven't even mentioned this to my manager - imo it doesn't
>>> make sense for this one. The specific technical debt I scored at summit
>>> is functional testing for l2-agent and dhcp-agent (as well as the
>>> general 'help out/reviews etc').
>>
>>
>> As we are working to get somebody from QA & Infra at the meetup, we will
>> probably have a "working table" dedicated to testing.
>>
>>
>>> Neither of those are controversial or
>>> require any particular deep discussion about approach :).
>>
>>
>> We're not meeting to argue or have fights. There's already a summit every 6
>> months for that! This meeting is about finalizing designs into low level
>> aspects and then getting our hands dirty on the keyboard.
>>
>>
>>> I am based in
>>> the far eastern Mediterranean so 1 month is probably also very close to
>>> the minimum time before which you can comfortably plan travel to the
>>> states.
>>>
>>>
>> Fortunately there are no easyjets or ryanairs for intercontinental flights.
>> You can buy reasonably priced tickets up to 2 weeks before departure. Idk
>> where you are precisely but flights from London, Rome, and Munich to Salt
>> Lake City are around 850 euros at the moment.
>>
>>
>>
>>> thanks! marios
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Having you there is far more productive than not.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you,
>>>> Anita.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Excerpts from Marios Andreou's message of 2014-11-11 08:56:05 -0800:
>>>>>>> +1 would be great to at least have a hangout going
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _sent from my mobile device, sorry for
>>> spacing/spelling/top-posting/.*_
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Kyle Mestery [mestery at mestery.com]
>>>>>>> Received: Tuesday, 11 Nov 2014, 16:14
>>>>>>> To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) [
>>> openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org]
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Neutron mid-cycle announcement
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 8:00 AM, Gary Kotton <gkotton at vmware.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>> For those unable to attend will there be an option of remote access?
>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We'll do our best to make this happen. I'll see if we can get a Google
>>>>>>> Hangout going in the room, and make sure people are on IRC.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>> Kyle
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 11/11/14, 3:04 PM, "Kyle Mestery" <mestery at mestery.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi folks:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Apologies for the delay in announcing the Neutron mid-cycle, but I
>>> was
>>>>>>>>> confirming the details up until last night. I've captured the
>>> details
>>>>>>>>> on an etherpad here [1]. The dates are December 8-10
>>>>>>>>> (Monday-Wednesday), and it will be at the Adobe offices in Lehi,
>>> Utah,
>>>>>>>>> USA.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We're still collecting information on hotels which should be on the
>>>>>>>>> etherpad later today.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks, looking forward to seeing everyone I missed in Paris!
>>>>>>>>> Kyle
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [1] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-kilo-midcycle
>>>>>>>>>
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