[openstack-dev] [Marconi][TC] Withdraw graduation request

Clint Byrum clint at fewbar.com
Thu Mar 20 23:30:14 UTC 2014


Jay said it all. I look forward to Marconi's graduation day and I see
good things. :)

Excerpts from Jay Pipes's message of 2014-03-20 16:18:37 -0700:
> This is a very mature stance and well-written email. Thanks, Flavio and
> all of the Marconi team for having thick skin and responding to the
> various issues professionally.
> 
> Cheers,
> -jay
> 
> On Thu, 2014-03-20 at 23:59 +0100, Flavio Percoco wrote:
> > Greetings,
> > 
> > I'm sending this email on behalf of Marconi's team.
> > 
> > As you already know, we submitted our graduation request a couple of
> > weeks ago and the meeting was held on Tuesday, March 18th. During the
> > meeting very important questions and issues were raised that made
> > us think and analyse our current situation and re-think about what
> > the best for OpenStack and Marconi would be in this very moment.
> > 
> > After some considerations, we've reached the conclusion that this is
> > probably not the right time for this project to graduate and that
> > it'll be fruitful for the project and the OpenStack community if we
> > take another development cycle before coming out from incubation. Here
> > are some things we took under consideration:
> > 
> > 1. It's still not clear to the overall community what the goals of
> > the project are. It is not fair for Marconi as a project nor for
> > OpenStack as a community to move forward with this integration when
> > there are still open questions about the project goals.
> > 
> > 2. Some critical issues came out of our attempt to have a gate job.
> > For the team, the project and the community this is a very critical
> > point. We've managed to have the gate working but we're still not
> > happy with the results.
> > 
> > 3. The drivers currently supported by the project don't cover some
> > important cases related to deploying it. One of them solves a
> > licensing issue but introduces a scale issue whereas the other one
> > solves the scale issue and introduces a licensing issue. Moreover,
> > these drivers have created quite a confusion with regards to what the
> > project goal's are too.
> > 
> > 4. We've seen the value - and believe in it - of OpenStack's
> > incubation period. During this period, the project has gained
> > maturity in its API, supported drivers and integration with the
> > overall community.
> > 
> > 5. Several important questions were brought up in the recent ML
> > discussions. These questions take time, effort but also represent a
> > key point in the support, development and integration of the project
> > with the rest of OpenStack. We'd like to dedicate to this questions
> > the time they deserve.
> > 
> > 6. There are still some open questions in the OpenStack community
> > related to the graduation requirements and the required supported
> > technologies of integrated projects.
> > 
> > Based on the aforementioned points, the team would like to withdraw
> > the graduation request and remain an incubated project for one
> > more development cycle.
> > 
> > During the upcoming months, the team will focus on solving the issues
> > that arose as part of last Tuesday's meeting. If possible, we would
> > like to request a meeting where we can discuss with the TC - and
> > whoever wants to participate - a set of *most pressing issues* that
> > should be solved before requesting another graduation meeting. The
> > team will be focused on solving those issues and other issues down
> > that road.
> > 
> > Although the team believes in the project's technical maturity, we think
> > this is what is best for OpenStack and the project itself
> > community-wise. The open questions are way too important for the team
> > and the community and they shouldn't be ignored nor rushed.
> > 
> > I'd also like to thank the team and the overall community. The team
> > for its hard work during the last cycle and the community for being there
> > and providing such important feedback in this process. We look forward
> > to see Marconi graduating from incubation.
> > 
> > Bests,
> > Marconi's team.
> > 
> > 
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