[openstack-dev] Fwd: Fwd: Debian people don't like bash8 as a project name (Bug#748383: ITP: bash8 -- bash script style guide checker)

Sean Dague sean at dague.net
Fri Jun 13 10:41:57 UTC 2014


On 06/13/2014 06:04 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> On 06/13/2014 06:53 AM, Morgan Fainberg wrote:
>> Hi Thomas,
>>
>> I felt a couple sentences here were reasonable to add (more than “don’t
>> care” from before). 
>>
>> I understand your concerns here, and I totally get what you’re driving
>> at, but in the packaging world wouldn’t this make sense to call it
>> "python-bash8"?
> 
> Yes, this is what will happen.
> 
>> Now the binary, I can agree (for reasons outlined)
>> should probably not be named ‘bash8’, but the name of the “command”
>> could be separate from the packaging / project name.
> 
> If upstream chooses /usr/bin/bash8, I'll have to follow. I don't want to
> carry patches which I'd have to maintain.
> 
>> Beyond a relatively minor change to the resulting “binary” name [sure
>> bash-tidy, or whatever we come up with], is there something more that
>> really is awful (rather than just silly) about the naming?
> 
> Renaming python-bash8 into something else is not possible, because the
> Debian standard is to use, as Debian name, what is used for the import.
> So if we have "import xyz", then the package will be python-xyz.
> 
>> I just don’t
>> see how if we don’t namespace collide on the executable side, how there
>> can be any real confusion (python-bash8, sure pypi is a little
>> different) over what is being installed.
> 
> The problem is that bash8 doesn't express anything but "bash version 8",
> unless you know pep8.

Impinging on the bash namespace is something I'll almost buy, except
that bash never ships with a version number.

I'd be vaguely ameniable to renaming the package/binary to bashate,
which is pronounced the same, but doesn't have the same namespacing
problem. Will talk with Matt Odden about it today.

	-Sean

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Sean Dague
http://dague.net

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