[openstack-dev] [Fuel] Using saltstack as orchestrator for fuel

Sergii Golovatiuk sgolovatiuk at mirantis.com
Wed Jun 11 10:04:09 UTC 2014


Hi,

There are many mature orchestration applications (Salt, Ansible, Cloudify,
Mistral). Is there any comparison chart? That would be nice to compare them
to understand the maturity level. Thanks

~Sergii


On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Dmitriy Shulyak <dshulyak at mirantis.com>
wrote:

> Actually i am proposing salt as alternative, the main reason - salt is
> mature, feature full orchestration solution, that is well adopted even by
> our internal teams
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 12:37 PM, Evgeniy L <eli at mirantis.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> As far as I remember we wanted to replace Astute with Mistral [1], do we
>> really want to have some intermediate steps (I mean salt) to do it?
>>
>> [1] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Mistral
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 10:38 AM, Dmitriy Shulyak <dshulyak at mirantis.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, in my opinion salt can completely replace
>>> astute/mcollective/rabbitmq.
>>> Listen and respond to the events generated by nailgun, or any other
>>> plugin - not a problem.
>>> There is already some kind of plugin for salt that adds ability to
>>> execute puppet on minions (agents) [1]
>>>
>>> [1]
>>> http://docs.saltstack.com/en/latest/ref/modules/all/salt.modules.puppet.html
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 4:06 PM, Mike Scherbakov <
>>> mscherbakov at mirantis.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Interesting stuff.
>>>> Do you think that we can get rid of Astute at some point being purely
>>>> replaced by Salt?
>>>> And listening for the commands from Fuel?
>>>>
>>>> Can you please clarify, does the suggested approach implies that we can
>>>> have both puppet & SaltStack? Even if you ever switch to anything
>>>> different, it is important to provide a smooth and step-by-step way for it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 6:05 AM, Dmitriy Shulyak <dshulyak at mirantis.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>>
>>>>> I know that sometime ago saltstack was evaluated to be used as
>>>>> orchestrator in fuel, so I've prepared some initial specification, that
>>>>> addresses basic points of integration, and general requirements for
>>>>> orchestrator.
>>>>>
>>>>> In my opinion saltstack perfectly fits our needs, and we can benefit
>>>>> from using mature orchestrator, that has its own community. I still dont
>>>>> have all the answers, but , anyway, i would like to ask all of you to start
>>>>> a review for specification
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uOHgxM9ZT_2IdcmWvgpEfCMoV8o0Fk7BoAlsGHEoIfs/edit?usp=sharing
>>>>>
>>>>> I will place it in fuel-docs repo as soon as specification will be
>>>>> full enough to start POC, or if you think that spec should placed there as
>>>>> is, i can do it now
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you
>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Mike Scherbakov
>>>> #mihgen
>>>>
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