[openstack-dev] [TripleO] [Tuskar] Terminology Revival #1 - Roles

Tzu-Mainn Chen tzumainn at redhat.com
Tue Jan 28 15:02:26 UTC 2014


Yep, although the reason why - that no end-user will know what these terms mean -
has never been entirely convincing to me.  But even if we don't use the word
'overcloud', I think we should use *something*.  Deployment is just so vague
that without some context, it could refer to anything.

As a side note, the original terminology thread ended with a general upstream
consensus that we should "call things what they are in OpenStack".  That's why
the 'deployment' model is actually called 'overcloud' in the UI/api; others
strongly favored using that term to make it clear to developers what we
were modeling.

Part of the difficulty here is the perception that developers and end-users
have different needs when it comes to terminology.


Mainn

----- Original Message -----
> I thought we were avoiding using overcloud and undercloud within the UI?
> 
> -J
> 
> On 01/28/2014 03:04 AM, Tzu-Mainn Chen wrote:
> > I've spent some time thinking about this, and I have a clarification.
> > 
> > I don't like the use of the word 'deployment', because it's not exact
> > enough for me.  Future plans for the tuskar-ui include management of the
> > undercloud as well, and at that point, 'deployment role' becomes vague, as
> > it could also logically apply to the undercloud.
> > 
> > For that reason, I think we should call it an 'overcloud deployment role',
> > or 'overcloud role' for short.
> > 
> > That being said, I think that the UI could get away with just displaying
> > 'Role', as presumably the user would be in a page with enough context to
> > make it clear that he's in the overcloud section.
> > 
> > 
> > Mainn
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> I'd argue that we should call it 'overcloud role' - at least from the
> >> modeling
> >> point of view - since the tuskar-api calls a deployment an overcloud.
> >>
> >> But I like the general direction of the term-renaming!
> >>
> >> Mainn
> >>
> 
> 
> 
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