[openstack-dev] [keystone] role of Domain in VPC definition

Harshad Nakil hnakil at contrailsystems.com
Sun Feb 16 16:01:14 UTC 2014


Yes, [1] can be done without [2] and [3].
As you are well aware [2] is now merged with group policy discussions.
IMHO all or nothing approach will not get us anywhere.
By the time we line up all our ducks in row. New features/ideas/blueprints
will keep Emerging.

Regards
-Harshad


On Feb 16, 2014, at 2:30 AM, Salvatore Orlando <sorlando at nicira.com> wrote:

It seems this work item is made of several blueprints, some of which are
not yet approved. This is true at least for the Neutron blueprint regarding
policy extensions.

Since I first looked at this spec I've been wondering why nova has been
selected as an endpoint for network operations rather than Neutron, but
this probably a design/implementation details whereas JC here is looking at
the general approach.

Nevertheless, my only point here is that is seems that features like this
need an "all-or-none" approval.
For instance, could the VPC feature be considered functional if blueprint
[1] is implemented, but not [2] and [3]?

Salvatore

[1] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/aws-vpc-support
[2]
https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/policy-extensions-for-neutron
[3]
https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/hierarchical-multitenancy


On 11 February 2014 21:45, Martin, JC <jch.martin at gmail.com> wrote:

> Ravi,
>
> It seems that the following Blueprint
> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Blueprint-aws-vpc-support
>
> has been approved.
>
> However, I cannot find a discussion with regard to the merit of using
> project vs. domain, or other mechanism for the implementation.
>
> I have an issue with this approach as it prevents tenants within the same
> domain sharing the same VPC to have projects.
>
> As an example, if you are a large organization on AWS, it is likely that
> you have a large VPC that will be shred by multiple projects. With this
> proposal, we loose that capability, unless I missed something.
>
> JC
>
> On Dec 19, 2013, at 6:10 PM, Ravi Chunduru <ravivsn at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >   We had some internal discussions on role of Domain and VPCs. I would
> like to expand and understand community thinking of Keystone domain and
> VPCs.
> >
> > Is VPC equivalent to Keystone Domain?
> >
> > If so, as a public cloud provider - I create a Keystone domain and give
> it to an organization which wants a virtual private cloud.
> >
> > Now the question is if that organization wants to have  departments wise
> allocation of resources it is becoming difficult to visualize with existing
> v3 keystone constructs.
> >
> > Currently, it looks like each department of an organization cannot have
> their own resource management with in the organization VPC ( LDAP based
> user management, network management or dedicating computes etc.,) For us,
> Openstack Project does not match the requirements of a department of an
> organization.
> >
> > I hope you guessed what we wanted - Domain must have VPCs and VPC to
> have projects.
> >
> > I would like to know how community see the VPC model in Openstack.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > -Ravi.
> >
> >
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