[openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

Giulio Fidente gfidente at redhat.com
Wed Aug 13 10:17:56 UTC 2014


On 08/07/2014 12:56 PM, Jay Pipes wrote:
> On 08/07/2014 02:12 AM, Kashyap Chamarthy wrote:
>> On Thu, Aug 07, 2014 at 07:10:23AM +1000, Michael Still wrote:
>>> On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 2:03 AM, Thierry Carrez
>>> <thierry at openstack.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> We seem to be unable to address some key issues in the software we
>>>> produce, and part of it is due to strategic contributors (and core
>>>> reviewers) being overwhelmed just trying to stay afloat of what's
>>>> happening. For such projects, is it time for a pause ? Is it time to
>>>> define key cycle goals and defer everything else ?
>>
>> [. . .]
>>
>>> We also talked about tweaking the ratio of "tech debt" runways vs
>>> 'feature" runways. So, perhaps every second release is focussed on
>>> burning down tech debt and stability, whilst the others are focussed
>>> on adding features.
>>
>>> I would suggest if we do such a thing, Kilo should be a "stability'
>>> release.
>>
>> Excellent sugestion. I've wondered multiple times that if we could
>> dedicate a good chunk (or whole) of a specific release for heads down
>> bug fixing/stabilization. As it has been stated elsewhere on this list:
>> there's no pressing need for a whole lot of new code submissions, rather
>> we focusing on fixing issues that affect _existing_ users/operators.
>
> There's a whole world of GBP/NFV/VPN/DVR/TLA folks that would beg to
> differ on that viewpoint. :)
>
> That said, I entirely agree with you and wish efforts to stabilize would
> take precedence over feature work.

I'm of this same opinion: I think a periodic, concerted effort to 
stabilize the existing features (which shouldn't be about bugs fixing 
only) would be helpful to work on some of the issues mentioned.

I'm thinking of qa, infra, the tactical contributions, the code clean-up 
and more in general the reviews backlog as some of these.

And I also think it would useful to figure what are the *strategic* 
features needed, as it would provide with some time to gather feedback 
from the field.

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