[openstack-dev] deliver the vm-level HA to improve the business continuity with openstack

Jay Pipes jaypipes at gmail.com
Wed Apr 16 02:33:39 UTC 2014


On Tue, 2014-04-15 at 12:01 +0100, Duncan Thomas wrote:
> On 14 April 2014 19:51, James Penick <penick at yahoo-inc.com> wrote:
> > We drive the ³VM=Cattle² message pretty hard. Part of onboarding a
> > property to our cloud, and allowing them to serve traffic from VMs is
> > explaining the transient nature of VMs. I broadcast the message that all
> > compute resources die, and if your day/week/month is ruined because of a
> > single compute instance going away, then you¹re doing something Very
> > Wrong. :)
> 
> While I agree with the message, if cloud provider A has VM restarts
> every hour, and B has restarts every 6 months, all other things being
> equal I'm going to go with B.

Pretty sure James wasn't saying that he restarts VMs every hour. The
idea is that applications that run on a utility cloud should be
resilient and take into account failure as an expected part of
operating.

> Restarts are a pain point for most
> systems, requiring data resynchronisation etc, so looking to minimise
> them is a good aim as long as it doesn't conflict much with other
> concerns...

I'm actually not entirely sure what restarts and data resync have to do
with vm-level HA? What am I missing here?

Best,
jay




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