[openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Load balancing use cases. Data from Operators needed.

Vijay Venkatachalam Vijay.Venkatachalam at citrix.com
Tue Apr 15 14:51:43 UTC 2014


Marked/added NetScaler’s highly used features in the doc.

In the last week’s LBaaS meeting  we decided to collect data from vendors/devices as well.

Thanks,
Vijay V.


From: Eugene Nikanorov [mailto:enikanorov at mirantis.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2014 6:13 PM
To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Load balancing use cases. Data from Operators needed.

Thanks a lot, folks!

Eugene.

On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 2:55 AM, Stephen Balukoff <sbalukoff at bluebox.net<mailto:sbalukoff at bluebox.net>> wrote:
I've also added our L7 feature usage data on a new tab.

On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 3:03 PM, Prashanth Hari <hvprash at gmail.com<mailto:hvprash at gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi,

We have updated the operators data - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ar1FuMFYRhgadDVXZ25NM2NfbGtLTkR0TDFNUWJQUWc#gid=1

Please note the percentage is based on number of VIPs. The traffic distribution (connections / sec) will vary by services.

Thanks,
Prashanth
Comcast



On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 11:28 AM, Susanne Balle <sleipnir012 at gmail.com<mailto:sleipnir012 at gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi

I wasn't able to get % for the spreadsheet but our Product Manager prioritized the features:

Function

Priority (0 = highest)

HTTP+HTTPS on one device

5

L7 Switching

2

SSL Offloading

1

High Availability

0

IP4 & IPV6 Address Support

6

Server Name Indication (SNI) Support

3

UDP Protocol

7

Round Robin Algorithm

4


 Susanne

On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 9:32 AM, Vijay Venkatachalam <Vijay.Venkatachalam at citrix.com<mailto:Vijay.Venkatachalam at citrix.com>> wrote:

                The document has Vendor  column, it should be from Cloud Operator?

Thanks,
Vijay V.


From: Eugene Nikanorov [mailto:enikanorov at mirantis.com<mailto:enikanorov at mirantis.com>]
Sent: Thursday, April 3, 2014 11:23 AM
To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)

Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Load balancing use cases. Data from Operators needed.

Stephen,

Agree with you. Basically the page starts looking as requirements page.
I think we need to move to google spreadsheet, where table is organized easily.
Here's the doc that may do a better job for us:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ar1FuMFYRhgadDVXZ25NM2NfbGtLTkR0TDFNUWJQUWc&usp=sharing

Thanks,
Eugene.

On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 5:34 AM, Prashanth Hari <hvprash at gmail.com<mailto:hvprash at gmail.com>> wrote:
More additions to the use cases (https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/LBaaS/Usecases).
I have updated some of the features we are interested in.



Thanks,
Prashanth


On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 8:12 PM, Stephen Balukoff <sbalukoff at bluebox.net<mailto:sbalukoff at bluebox.net>> wrote:
Hi y'all--

Looking at the data in the page already, it looks more like a feature wishlist than actual usage data. I thought we agreed to provide data based on percentage usage of a given feature, the end result of the data collection being that it would become more obvious which features are the most relevant to the most users, and therefore are more worthwhile targets for software development.

Specifically, I was expecting to see something like the following (using hypothetical numbers of course, and where technical people from "Company A" & etc. fill out the data for their organization):

== L7 features ==

"Company A" (Cloud operator serving external customers): 56% of load-balancer instances use
"Company B" (Cloud operator serving external customers): 92% of load-balancer instances use
"Company C" (Fortune 100 company serving internal customers): 0% of load-balancer instances use

== SSL termination ==

"Company A" (Cloud operator serving external customers): 95% of load-balancer instances use
"Company B" (Cloud operator serving external customers): 20% of load-balancer instances use
"Company C" (Fortune 100 company serving internal customers): 50% of load-balancer instances use.

== Racing stripes ==

"Company A" (Cloud operator serving external customers): 100% of load-balancer instances use
"Company B" (Cloud operator serving external customers): 100% of load-balancer instances use
"Company C" (Fortune 100 company serving internal customers): 100% of load-balancer instances use


In my mind, a wish-list of features is only going to be relevant to this discussion if (after we agree on what the items under consideration ought to be) each technical representative presents a prioritized list for their organization. :/ A wish-list is great for brain-storming what ought to be added, but is less relevant for prioritization.

In light of last week's meeting, it seems useful to list the features most recently discussed in that meeting and on the mailing list as being points on which we want to gather actual usage data (ie. from what people are actually using on the load balancers in their organization right now). Should we start a new page that lists actual usage percentages, or just re-vamp the one above?  (After all, wish-list can be useful for discovering things we're missing, especially if we get people new to the discussion to add their $0.02.)

Thanks,
Stephen



On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 3:46 PM, Jorge Miramontes <jorge.miramontes at rackspace.com<mailto:jorge.miramontes at rackspace.com>> wrote:
Thanks Eugene,

I added our data onto the requirements page since I was hoping to prioritize requirements based on the operator data that gets provided. We can move it over to the other page if you think that makes sense. See everyone on the weekly meeting tomorrow!

Cheers,
--Jorge

From: Susanne Balle <sleipnir012 at gmail.com<mailto:sleipnir012 at gmail.com>>
Reply-To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" <openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org<mailto:openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org>>
Date: Tuesday, April 1, 2014 4:09 PM
To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" <openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org<mailto:openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org>>
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Load balancing use cases. Data from Operators needed.

I added two more. I am still working on our HA use cases. Susanne

On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 4:16 PM, Fox, Kevin M <Kevin.Fox at pnnl.gov<mailto:Kevin.Fox at pnnl.gov>> wrote:
I added our priorities. I hope its formatted well enough. I just took a stab in the dark.

Thanks,
Kevin
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From: Eugene Nikanorov [enikanorov at mirantis.com<mailto:enikanorov at mirantis.com>]
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 3:02 AM
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Subject: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Load balancing use cases. Data from Operators needed.
Hi folks,

On the last meeting we decided to collect usage data so we could prioritize features and see what is demanded most.

Here's the blank page to do that (in a free form). I'll structure it once we have some data.
https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/LBaaS/Usecases

Please fill with the data you have.

Thanks,
Eugene.

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