[openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Load balancing use cases. Data from Operators needed.

Eugene Nikanorov enikanorov at mirantis.com
Tue Apr 15 12:42:30 UTC 2014


Thanks a lot, folks!

Eugene.


On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 2:55 AM, Stephen Balukoff <sbalukoff at bluebox.net>wrote:

> I've also added our L7 feature usage data on a new tab.
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 3:03 PM, Prashanth Hari <hvprash at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> We have updated the operators data -
>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ar1FuMFYRhgadDVXZ25NM2NfbGtLTkR0TDFNUWJQUWc#gid=1
>>
>> Please note the percentage is based on number of VIPs. The traffic
>> distribution (connections / sec) will vary by services.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Prashanth
>> Comcast
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 11:28 AM, Susanne Balle <sleipnir012 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I wasn't able to get % for the spreadsheet but our Product Manager
>>> prioritized the features:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Function*
>>>
>>> *Priority (0 = highest)*
>>>
>>> *HTTP+HTTPS on one device*
>>>
>>> 5
>>>
>>> *L7 Switching*
>>>
>>> 2
>>>
>>> *SSL Offloading*
>>>
>>> 1
>>>
>>> *High Availability*
>>>
>>> 0
>>>
>>> *IP4 & IPV6 Address Support*
>>>
>>> 6
>>>
>>> *Server Name Indication (SNI) Support*
>>>
>>> 3
>>>
>>> *UDP Protocol*
>>>
>>> 7
>>>
>>> *Round Robin Algorithm*
>>>
>>> 4
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Susanne
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 9:32 AM, Vijay Venkatachalam <
>>> Vijay.Venkatachalam at citrix.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                 The document has Vendor  column, it should be from
>>>> Cloud Operator?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Vijay V.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Eugene Nikanorov [mailto:enikanorov at mirantis.com]
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, April 3, 2014 11:23 AM
>>>> *To:* OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
>>>>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Load balancing use
>>>> cases. Data from Operators needed.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Stephen,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Agree with you. Basically the page starts looking as requirements page.
>>>>
>>>> I think we need to move to google spreadsheet, where table is organized
>>>> easily.
>>>>
>>>> Here's the doc that may do a better job for us:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ar1FuMFYRhgadDVXZ25NM2NfbGtLTkR0TDFNUWJQUWc&usp=sharing
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Eugene.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 5:34 AM, Prashanth Hari <hvprash at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  More additions to the use cases (
>>>> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/LBaaS/Usecases).
>>>>
>>>> I have updated some of the features we are interested in.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Prashanth
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 8:12 PM, Stephen Balukoff <sbalukoff at bluebox.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  Hi y'all--
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Looking at the data in the page already, it looks more like a feature
>>>> wishlist than actual usage data. I thought we agreed to provide data based
>>>> on percentage usage of a given feature, the end result of the data
>>>> collection being that it would become more obvious which features are the
>>>> most relevant to the most users, and therefore are more worthwhile targets
>>>> for software development.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Specifically, I was expecting to see something like the following
>>>> (using hypothetical numbers of course, and where technical people from
>>>> "Company A" & etc. fill out the data for their organization):
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> == L7 features ==
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Company A" (Cloud operator serving external customers): 56% of
>>>> load-balancer instances use
>>>>
>>>> "Company B" (Cloud operator serving external customers): 92% of
>>>> load-balancer instances use
>>>>
>>>> "Company C" (Fortune 100 company serving internal customers): 0% of
>>>> load-balancer instances use
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> == SSL termination ==
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Company A" (Cloud operator serving external customers): 95% of
>>>> load-balancer instances use
>>>>
>>>> "Company B" (Cloud operator serving external customers): 20% of
>>>> load-balancer instances use
>>>>
>>>> "Company C" (Fortune 100 company serving internal customers): 50% of
>>>> load-balancer instances use.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> == Racing stripes ==
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Company A" (Cloud operator serving external customers): 100% of
>>>> load-balancer instances use
>>>>
>>>> "Company B" (Cloud operator serving external customers): 100% of
>>>> load-balancer instances use
>>>>
>>>> "Company C" (Fortune 100 company serving internal customers): 100% of
>>>> load-balancer instances use
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In my mind, a wish-list of features is only going to be relevant to
>>>> this discussion if (after we agree on what the items under consideration
>>>> ought to be) each technical representative presents a prioritized list for
>>>> their organization. :/ A wish-list is great for brain-storming what ought
>>>> to be added, but is less relevant for prioritization.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In light of last week's meeting, it seems useful to list the features
>>>> most recently discussed in that meeting and on the mailing list as being
>>>> points on which we want to gather actual usage data (ie. from what people
>>>> are actually using on the load balancers in their organization right now).
>>>> Should we start a new page that lists actual usage percentages, or just
>>>> re-vamp the one above?  (After all, wish-list can be useful for discovering
>>>> things we're missing, especially if we get people new to the discussion to
>>>> add their $0.02.)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Stephen
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 3:46 PM, Jorge Miramontes <
>>>> jorge.miramontes at rackspace.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>   Thanks Eugene,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I added our data onto the requirements page since I was hoping to
>>>> prioritize requirements based on the operator data that gets provided. We
>>>> can move it over to the other page if you think that makes sense. See
>>>> everyone on the weekly meeting tomorrow!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> --Jorge
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From: *Susanne Balle <sleipnir012 at gmail.com>
>>>> *Reply-To: *"OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage
>>>> questions)" <openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org>
>>>> *Date: *Tuesday, April 1, 2014 4:09 PM
>>>> *To: *"OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" <
>>>> openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org>
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Load balancing use
>>>> cases. Data from Operators needed.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I added two more. I am still working on our HA use cases. Susanne
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 4:16 PM, Fox, Kevin M <Kevin.Fox at pnnl.gov>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  I added our priorities. I hope its formatted well enough. I just took
>>>> a stab in the dark.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Kevin
>>>>  ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Eugene Nikanorov [enikanorov at mirantis.com]
>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 01, 2014 3:02 AM
>>>> *To:* OpenStack Development Mailing List
>>>> *Subject:* [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Load balancing use cases.
>>>> Data from Operators needed.
>>>>
>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On the last meeting we decided to collect usage data so we could
>>>> prioritize features and see what is demanded most.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Here's the blank page to do that (in a free form). I'll structure it
>>>> once we have some data.
>>>>
>>>> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/LBaaS/Usecases
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Please fill with the data you have.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Eugene.
>>>>
>>>>
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