[openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Load balancing use cases. Data from Operators needed.

Stephen Balukoff sbalukoff at bluebox.net
Mon Apr 14 22:55:59 UTC 2014


I've also added our L7 feature usage data on a new tab.


On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 3:03 PM, Prashanth Hari <hvprash at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> We have updated the operators data -
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ar1FuMFYRhgadDVXZ25NM2NfbGtLTkR0TDFNUWJQUWc#gid=1
>
> Please note the percentage is based on number of VIPs. The traffic
> distribution (connections / sec) will vary by services.
>
> Thanks,
> Prashanth
> Comcast
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 11:28 AM, Susanne Balle <sleipnir012 at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>>
>>
>> I wasn't able to get % for the spreadsheet but our Product Manager
>> prioritized the features:
>>
>>
>>
>> *Function*
>>
>> *Priority (0 = highest)*
>>
>> *HTTP+HTTPS on one device*
>>
>> 5
>>
>> *L7 Switching*
>>
>> 2
>>
>> *SSL Offloading*
>>
>> 1
>>
>> *High Availability*
>>
>> 0
>>
>> *IP4 & IPV6 Address Support*
>>
>> 6
>>
>> *Server Name Indication (SNI) Support*
>>
>> 3
>>
>> *UDP Protocol*
>>
>> 7
>>
>> *Round Robin Algorithm*
>>
>> 4
>>
>>
>>
>>  Susanne
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 9:32 AM, Vijay Venkatachalam <
>> Vijay.Venkatachalam at citrix.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                 The document has Vendor  column, it should be from Cloud
>>> Operator?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Vijay V.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Eugene Nikanorov [mailto:enikanorov at mirantis.com]
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, April 3, 2014 11:23 AM
>>> *To:* OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Load balancing use
>>> cases. Data from Operators needed.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Stephen,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Agree with you. Basically the page starts looking as requirements page.
>>>
>>> I think we need to move to google spreadsheet, where table is organized
>>> easily.
>>>
>>> Here's the doc that may do a better job for us:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ar1FuMFYRhgadDVXZ25NM2NfbGtLTkR0TDFNUWJQUWc&usp=sharing
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Eugene.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 5:34 AM, Prashanth Hari <hvprash at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  More additions to the use cases (
>>> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/LBaaS/Usecases).
>>>
>>> I have updated some of the features we are interested in.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Prashanth
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 8:12 PM, Stephen Balukoff <sbalukoff at bluebox.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Hi y'all--
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Looking at the data in the page already, it looks more like a feature
>>> wishlist than actual usage data. I thought we agreed to provide data based
>>> on percentage usage of a given feature, the end result of the data
>>> collection being that it would become more obvious which features are the
>>> most relevant to the most users, and therefore are more worthwhile targets
>>> for software development.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Specifically, I was expecting to see something like the following (using
>>> hypothetical numbers of course, and where technical people from "Company A"
>>> & etc. fill out the data for their organization):
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> == L7 features ==
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Company A" (Cloud operator serving external customers): 56% of
>>> load-balancer instances use
>>>
>>> "Company B" (Cloud operator serving external customers): 92% of
>>> load-balancer instances use
>>>
>>> "Company C" (Fortune 100 company serving internal customers): 0% of
>>> load-balancer instances use
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> == SSL termination ==
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Company A" (Cloud operator serving external customers): 95% of
>>> load-balancer instances use
>>>
>>> "Company B" (Cloud operator serving external customers): 20% of
>>> load-balancer instances use
>>>
>>> "Company C" (Fortune 100 company serving internal customers): 50% of
>>> load-balancer instances use.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> == Racing stripes ==
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Company A" (Cloud operator serving external customers): 100% of
>>> load-balancer instances use
>>>
>>> "Company B" (Cloud operator serving external customers): 100% of
>>> load-balancer instances use
>>>
>>> "Company C" (Fortune 100 company serving internal customers): 100% of
>>> load-balancer instances use
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In my mind, a wish-list of features is only going to be relevant to this
>>> discussion if (after we agree on what the items under consideration ought
>>> to be) each technical representative presents a prioritized list for their
>>> organization. :/ A wish-list is great for brain-storming what ought to be
>>> added, but is less relevant for prioritization.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In light of last week's meeting, it seems useful to list the features
>>> most recently discussed in that meeting and on the mailing list as being
>>> points on which we want to gather actual usage data (ie. from what people
>>> are actually using on the load balancers in their organization right now).
>>> Should we start a new page that lists actual usage percentages, or just
>>> re-vamp the one above?  (After all, wish-list can be useful for discovering
>>> things we're missing, especially if we get people new to the discussion to
>>> add their $0.02.)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Stephen
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 3:46 PM, Jorge Miramontes <
>>> jorge.miramontes at rackspace.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>   Thanks Eugene,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I added our data onto the requirements page since I was hoping to
>>> prioritize requirements based on the operator data that gets provided. We
>>> can move it over to the other page if you think that makes sense. See
>>> everyone on the weekly meeting tomorrow!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> --Jorge
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From: *Susanne Balle <sleipnir012 at gmail.com>
>>> *Reply-To: *"OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage
>>> questions)" <openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org>
>>> *Date: *Tuesday, April 1, 2014 4:09 PM
>>> *To: *"OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" <
>>> openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org>
>>> *Subject: *Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Load balancing use
>>> cases. Data from Operators needed.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I added two more. I am still working on our HA use cases. Susanne
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 4:16 PM, Fox, Kevin M <Kevin.Fox at pnnl.gov> wrote:
>>>
>>>  I added our priorities. I hope its formatted well enough. I just took
>>> a stab in the dark.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Kevin
>>>  ------------------------------
>>>
>>> *From:* Eugene Nikanorov [enikanorov at mirantis.com]
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 01, 2014 3:02 AM
>>> *To:* OpenStack Development Mailing List
>>> *Subject:* [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Load balancing use cases.
>>> Data from Operators needed.
>>>
>>> Hi folks,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On the last meeting we decided to collect usage data so we could
>>> prioritize features and see what is demanded most.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Here's the blank page to do that (in a free form). I'll structure it
>>> once we have some data.
>>>
>>> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/LBaaS/Usecases
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Please fill with the data you have.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Eugene.
>>>
>>>
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