[openstack-dev] Keystone and Multiple Identity Sources

Dolph Mathews dolph.mathews at gmail.com
Wed Sep 11 16:35:38 UTC 2013


On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 10:25 AM, Adam Young <ayoung at redhat.com> wrote:

> David Chadwick wrote up an in depth API extension for Federation:
> https://review.openstack.org/#**/c/39499<https://review.openstack.org/#/c/39499>
> There is an abfab API proposal as well: https://review.openstack.org/#**
> /c/42221/ <https://review.openstack.org/#/c/42221/>
>
> After discussing this for a while, it dawned on me that Federation should
> not be something bolted on to Keystone, but rather that it was already
> central to the design.
>
> The SQL Identity backend is a simple password store that collects users
> into groups.  This makes it an identity provider (IdP).
> Now Keystone can register multiple LDAP servers as Identity backends.
>
> There are requests for SAML and ABFAB integration into Keystone as well.
>
> Instead of a "Federation API"  Keystone should take the key concepts from
> the API and make them core concepts.  What would this mean:
>
> 1.  Instead of "method": "federation" "protocol": "abfab"  it would be
> "method": "abfab",
> 2.  The rules about multiple round trips (phase)  would go under the
> "abfab" section.
> 3.  There would not be a "protocol_data" section but rather that would be
> the "abfab" section as well.
> 4.  Provider ID would be standard in the method specific section.
>

That sounds like it fits with the original intention of the "method"
portion of the auth API.


>
> One question that has come up has been about Providers, and whether they
> should be considered endpoints in the Catalog.  THere is a couple issues
> wiuth this:  one is that they are not something managed by OpenStack, and
> two is that they are not necessarily Web Protocols.


What's the use case for including providers in the service catalog? i.e.
why do Identity API clients need to be aware of the Identity Providers?

As such, Provider should probably be First class citizen.  We already have
> LDAP  handled this way, although not as an enumerated entity.


Can you be more specific? What does it mean to be a first class citizen in
this context? The fact that identity is backed by LDAP today is abstracted
away from Identity API clients, for example.


> For the first iteration, I would like to see ABFAB, SAML, and any other
> protocols we support done the same way as LDAP:  a deliberate configuration
> option for Keystone that will require a config file change.
>
> David and I have discussed this in a side conversation, and agree that it
> requires wider input.
>
>
>
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-Dolph
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