[openstack-dev] [openstack][nova][social-apects] Social aspects shouldn't impact on dev process

John Griffith john.griffith at solidfire.com
Thu Nov 21 01:18:04 UTC 2013


On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 5:17 PM, Tom Fifield <tom at openstack.org> wrote:
> Hi Boris,
>
> I'm sorry that you've had a frustrating experience :)
>
> Even I've written purge scripts before - so I know that this is a very
> useful feature :)
>
> I think that some of it was probably just due to timing issues - I've
> observed that things behave a bit differently than normal around release and
> the summit. Some specific thoughts in-line.
>
>
> On 20/11/13 18:06, Boris Pavlovic wrote:
>>
>> We started working on purge engine for DB (before HK summit)
>>
>> This is very important, because at this moment we don't have any working
>> way to purge DB... so admins should make it by hand.
>>
>>
>> And we made this BP (in october)
>> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/db-purge-engine
>>
>> And made patch that makes this work.
>> But only because our BP wasn't approved we got -2 from Joe Gordon.
>> (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/51523/ ) And there was long discussion
>> to remove this -2.
>
>
> I've had a read of the review discussion, which (specifically related to the
> -2) was over 1 day, with a total of 10 messages.
>
> It seems to me that Joe's initial -2 was valid - he was just working to
> prevent the patch getting accidentally merged before it was ready.
>
> I think your update of the commit message and tagging as WIP was a nice
> compromise response, and was clear enough to remove the -2.
>
> However - my guess is that the specific -2 isn't the underlying issue here.
> Instead, it's about the way having a -2 on the patch changes
> how reviewers see it. Still guessing: my impression is that you might see a
> -2 on a patch as a "death knell", where reviewers just stop looking at the
> patch thinking it's a dead end.
>
> Personally, I don't spend enough time on nova reviews to say whether this is
> the case. Have you observed this? perhaps someone else can chip in ?
>
>
>> And now after summit David Ripton made the similar BP (probably he
>> didn't know):
>> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/db-purge2
>
>
> The merging of these two efforts looks like something we can fix, yes?
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Tom
>
>
>
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Just to clarify, based on what I'm following here; the issue is not
the -2 really.  The issue is that a -2 was given due to the submitted
BP not being approved.  However the same reviewer then approved a
duplicate BP that was submitted after the fact.

I'm sure this was an oversight and just a matter of things being busy
and loosing track of BP's.  The original BP is well detailed IMO and
seems like it should've been approved so folks could move on with the
patch that's in process.



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