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Kyle,

I'm afraid your meeting vanished from the Meetings page [2] when user amotiki reworked neutron meetings ^.^
Is the meeting for Thu 1600 UTC still on?

A few heads-up questions (couldn't attend the HK design summit Friday meeting):

1) In the summit session Etherpad [3], ML2 implementation mentions insertion of arbitrary metadata to hint to underlying implementation. Is that (a) the plug-ing reporting its policy-bound realization? (b) the user further specifying what should be used? (c) both? Or (d) none of that but just some arbitrary message of the day?

2) Would policies _always_ map to the old Neutron entities? 
E.g. when I have policies in place, can I query related network/port, subnet/address, router elements on the API or are there no equivalents created? Would the logical topology created under the policies be exposed otherwise? for e.g. monitoring/wysiwyg/troubleshoot purposes.

3) Do the chain identifier in your policy rule actions match to "Service Chain UUID" in Service Insertion, Chaining and API [4]

4) Are you going to describe L2 services the way group policies work? I mean, why would I need a LoadBalancer or Firewall instance before I can insert it between two groups when all that load balancing/firewalling requires is nothing but a policy for group communication itself? - regardless the service instance used to carry out the service.

Best, Manuel

[2] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings#Neutron_Group_Policy_Sub-Team_Meeting
[3] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Group_Based_Policy_Abstraction_for_Neutron
[4] https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fmCWpCxAN4g5txmCJVmBDt02GYew2kvyRsh0Wl3YF2U/edit#

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kyle Mestery (kmestery) [mailto:kmestery at cisco.com] 
> Sent: Montag, 11. November 2013 19:41
> To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
> Subject: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Group-based Policy 
> Sub-team Meetings
> 
> Hi folks! Hope everyone had a safe trip back from Hong Kong. 
> Friday afternoon in the Neutron sessions we discussed the 
> "Group-based Policy Abstraction" BP [1]. It was decided we 
> would try to have a weekly IRC meeting to drive out further 
> requirements with the hope of coming up with a list of 
> actionable tasks to begin working on by December.
> I've tentatively set the meeting [2] for Thursdays at 1600 
> UTC on the #openstack-meeting-alt IRC channel. If there are 
> serious conflicts with this day and time, please speak up 
> soon. Otherwise, we'll host our first meeting on Thursday this week.
> 
> Thanks!
> Kyle
> 
> [1] 
> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/group-based-pol
icy-abstraction
> [2] 
> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings#Neutron_Group_Policy_
> Sub-Team_Meeting
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