[openstack-dev] Future of orchestration

Joshua Harlow harlowja at yahoo-inc.com
Thu Feb 28 05:17:41 UTC 2013


Whatever name is fine with me, doesn't really matter.

I care more about the functionality :-P

Heat is an external service, there is a distinction between internal to
nova orchestration and external to nova orchestration (heat).

Without the former its hard to ever get to a good later imho.

On 2/27/13 3:14 PM, "Angus Salkeld" <asalkeld at redhat.com> wrote:

>On 27/02/13 13:09 -0800, Joshua Harlow wrote:
>>Since I wanted to get this discussion going sooner rather and I promised
>>at the last meet-up to do this.
>>
>>http://www.meetup.com/openstack/events/97700872/
>>
>>I'd like to get feedback on work/design/thoughts that is IMHO very very
>>needed in nova (and possible other components).
>>
>>It's related to orchestration and how a 'structured' orchestration
>>approach will make nova more scalable, more reliable and easier to
>>maintain/review/develop in the future.
>>
>>https://etherpad.openstack.org/the-future-of-orch
>
>Hi
>
>Any chance we call this something else besides orchestration?
>It might get confusing with the kind of orchestration Heat does.
>(minor issue...)
>
>So Heat could also use such a service for managing the
>creation/updating/deleting
>of the Heat stack. Esp. as we are now getting requests for parallel
>creation
>of resources that don't depend on each other. The nice thing about having
>this
>as a seperate service is you could end up with almost a "top/pstree" for
>large
>OpenStack jobs.
>
>So big +1 to this (and being a separate service Heat can use)
>
>-Angus
>
>>
>>P.S.
>>
>>I seem to have broke a previous etherpad (not really sure how, just
>>would say 'loading' and never do anything) @ so hopefully that same kind
>>of breaking doesn't happen at the summit. That'd be a sad moment when
>>multiple people are editing and it stops working/loading.
>
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