[openstack-dev] Grizzly's out - let the numbers begin...

Sean Dague sean at dague.net
Fri Apr 5 13:04:47 UTC 2013

On 04/05/2013 07:43 AM, Mark McLoughlin wrote:
> On Fri, 2013-04-05 at 11:03 +0200, Thierry Carrez wrote:
>> Bruce Schneier puts it in better words than I do in "Liars and Outliers":
>> "When you start measuring something and then judge people based on that
>> measurement, you encourage people to game the measurement instead of
>> doing whatever it is you wanted in the first place."
> Agree with everything you say. I don't think I've seen obvious examples
> of people trying to game the stats but, with the emphasis we're putting
> on these stats, it's only natural that people will start gaming them.

I think we've been reasonably lucky so far, so if there are any folks 
gaming it, they are drowned out by the vast amount of legitimate work 
being done.

In an era of readily available data, it's kind of hard to prevent people 
from making graphs out of it. And with a project that gets so much 
press, it's hard to keep people from making ridiculous press releases.

Mark, I'm more comfortable when someone like yourself is maintaining the 
code base that everyone seems to be using to generate stats, because I 
know he's not going to game this output. If you are stepping away from 
the repo, it might be worth putting it into openstack-dev and gerrit, so 
at least people can push reviews to deal with org changes.

I don't know that putting the cat back in the bag is going to happen no 
matter what we do.


Sean Dague

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