[openstack-dev] [nova] Call for Help -- OpenStack API XML Support

George Reese george.reese at imaginary.com
Thu Aug 9 23:02:18 UTC 2012


And this is why I go off on the developer-oriented mentality of the OpenStack community.

The fact that there is no one in the OpenStack developer community writing XML stuff is not a reflection of the fact that there's no huge desire for XML.

It's in the spec for a reason: BECAUSE ENTERPRISES USE XML HEAVILY

OpenStack developers aren't that audience. They use JSON.

That the project can get to this point and not have tests for these things shows a flaw in the development processes, not some grand illustration of supply and demand.

Do I really have to point out that if the spec calls for JSON and XML, you should bloody well write integration tests to check for JSON and XML?

You don't write whatever happens to please you.

You know how I know all of this? I have an API that supports both XML and JSON. I personally prefer JSON. Most of my friends and colleagues prefer and use JSON.

Most of my customers use XML.

Thank $deity I actually write unit tests for each format.

-George

File under:
-> statistics 101
-> software development 101

On Aug 9, 2012, at 5:52 PM, Vishvananda Ishaya <vishvananda at gmail.com> wrote:

> 
> On Aug 9, 2012, at 3:32 PM, George Reese <george.reese at imaginary.com> wrote:
> 
>> Why aren't the integration tests both XML and JSON?
> 
> The simple answer is that no one has taken the time to write them. Our devstack exercises use the python client bindings. Tempest has json clients but no xml clients[1]. I think this demonstrates that there just isn't a huge desire for xml. Users that I have chatted with just seem to care that the api works and that they they have good bindings.
> 
> I am definitely willing to be proven wrong on this point, but I'm secretly hoping everyone agrees with me. It is a lot of work to maintain three APIs (we are still maintaining EC2 as well) and keep them all functioning well, so if people are happy without OpenStack XML I would be perfectly content to deprecate it.
> 
> Vish
> 
> [1] https://github.com/openstack/tempest/tree/master/tempest/services/nova/xml
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