<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 7:04 PM, Richard Fontana <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rfontana@redhat.com" target="_blank">rfontana@redhat.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="im">On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 04:19:24PM -0500, Mark Brown wrote:<br>
> Richard Fontana <<a href="mailto:rfontana@redhat.com">rfontana@redhat.com</a>> wrote on 05/14/2013 04:03:19 PM:<br>
> > Re: [legal-discuss] [openstack-tc] Copyrights and License Headers in<br>
> > source files<br>
><br>
> > > Mostly, I wanted to suggest that a lawyer needs to advise us on this.<br>
> > > The Foundation is our go-to place for legal help, is it not?<br>
> ><br>
> > That is a very interesting question, as phrased, but I'd say the<br>
> > answer is no.<br>
><br>
> No offense intended, Richard, honest! -- I'm just curious on what<br>
> they (OpenStack Foundation as organized) would say on the topic, if<br>
> they have a say at all.<br>
<br>
</div>Oh, I didn't take any offense at all. And I also think any viewpoint<br>
of the Foundation on this issue (or, let's say, on an issue that was<br>
less trivial than this one), if it already existed, would be<br>
interesting and given a lot of consideration. However, maybe I misread<br>
it but I took your statements to imply that the Foundation plays a<br>
role in providing legal advice to the collective body of OpenStack<br>
project contributors.<br>
<span class=""><font color="#888888"><br></font></span></blockquote><div><br></div><div style>When I emailed Lisa Miller, one of the Foundations corporate attorney team, I got the following guidance. I don't know if she "plays a role in providing legal advice to the collective body of OpenStack project contributors" but she plays a role in providing legal advice. To whom exactly I'm not certain but she replied to my email when I was asking about OpenStack LLC copyright transfer and guidance on headers. Here's the summary, collected in the wiki page at <a href="https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/Copyright">https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/Copyright</a>.</div>
<div style><br></div><div style><p style="margin:0px 0px 10px;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:'Arial Unicode MS',Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:20px">Generally speaking, copyright notices are no longer required in order to create or protect your copyright rights, but can be helpful in certain instances. The general rule for copyright notices is that it should include the © symbol, the year of first publication, and the name of the copyright owner. With websites, there is a genuine question of when the website is "first published."</p>
<p style="margin:0px 0px 10px;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:'Arial Unicode MS',Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:20px">Because the date included in the copyright notice is the date of first publication, a range of dates is unnecessary. That is the year would be "2010" or "2013" rather than 2010-present.</p>
<p style="margin:0px 0px 10px;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:'Arial Unicode MS',Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:20px">All references to "<a href="https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpenStack" title="OpenStack" style="color:rgb(0,136,204);text-decoration:none">OpenStack</a> LLC" can be changed to "<a href="https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpenStack" title="OpenStack" style="color:rgb(0,136,204);text-decoration:none">OpenStack</a> Foundation" because the copyright was transferred when the new entity was created.</p>
<p style="margin:0px 0px 10px;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:'Arial Unicode MS',Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:20px">Here are some specific examples.</p><p style="margin:0px 0px 10px;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:'Arial Unicode MS',Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:20px">
<b>OpenStack LLC notice</b></p><p style="margin:0px 0px 10px;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:'Arial Unicode MS',Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:20px">When a webpage is run by <a href="https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpenStack" title="OpenStack" style="color:rgb(0,136,204);text-decoration:none">OpenStack</a> only and is substantially revised or updated, the copyright notice should include the year that the content was updated. In a Nova dev doc page, for example, the copyright notice should be "© 2013, <a href="https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpenStack" title="OpenStack" style="color:rgb(0,136,204);text-decoration:none">OpenStack</a> Foundation" if the content has been updated this year or "© 2012, <a href="https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpenStack" title="OpenStack" style="color:rgb(0,136,204);text-decoration:none">OpenStack</a> Foundation" if the content was last updated in 2012.</p>
<p style="margin:0px 0px 10px;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:'Arial Unicode MS',Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:20px"><b>US Government copyright notice</b></p><p style="margin:0px 0px 10px;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:'Arial Unicode MS',Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:20px">
For the government copyright notice, if the material you received from the government has not been substantially revised or updated since you received it, do not change the year on the copyright notice.</p><p style="margin:0px 0px 10px;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:'Arial Unicode MS',Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:20px">
<b>Multiple copyright holders</b></p><p style="margin:0px 0px 10px;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:'Arial Unicode MS',Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:20px">If you update a page, you can add the entity you represent (self or organization) to the list of Copyright holders, but do not remove any listed Copyright headings. If the content has been substantially updated in 2013, add the year to the change. If no substantive updates or revisions have been made to the copyrighted material, the year does not need to be updated.</p>
<p style="margin:0px 0px 10px;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:'Arial Unicode MS',Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:20px">The RST files in developer documentation and the DocBook files in operator documentation handle copyright statements slightly differently but these general guidelines apply no matter the doc file format. You are not required to add a copyright header to an RST file. Ideally the Apache header will suffice.</p>
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