<div dir="ltr">I was the original architect, handling strategy, roadmap and high level implementation details on the PayPal project while Mirantis was engaged.<div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 11:11 AM, Michael Williams <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:michael@nuagenetworks.net" target="_blank">michael@nuagenetworks.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:14px;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><div><div><div>HI Sean,</div><div>Thanks for the inside scoop! Unfortunately, all the VMware – PayPal relationship issues are drowning out the key fact that you and a Forbes blog post reported: 8,500 servers are being managed by OpenStack. That’s a huge scalability proof point!!! </div><div><br></div><div>From some other posts, it appears that OpenStack Vancouver will have several presentations re PayPal’s use of OpenStack. Hopefully, by then enterprises will be receptive to hearing about the capabilities rather than the relationship issues.</div><div><br></div><div>BTW: Re the $2B hit on VMware stock, Elon Musk put out an optimistic tweet a week or so ago that raised Tesla’s valuation by $1 B! See <a href="http://www.bizjournals.com/sanjose/news/2015/03/31/optimistic-elon-musk-tweet-boosts-tesla-stock.html" target="_blank">http://www.bizjournals.com/sanjose/news/2015/03/31/optimistic-elon-musk-tweet-boosts-tesla-stock.html</a>. It’s amazing that just a single statement can have such an effect on stock prices … </div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><br></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><font size="3" face="Calibri">Regards,<u></u><u></u></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><font size="3" face="Calibri">Michael</font><font face="Calibri,sans-serif" style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14px;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u><u></u></font></p></div><div><font size="3" face="Calibri"><br></font></div></div></div></div><div><br></div><span><div style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt;text-align:left;color:black;BORDER-BOTTOM:medium none;BORDER-LEFT:medium none;PADDING-BOTTOM:0in;PADDING-LEFT:0in;PADDING-RIGHT:0in;BORDER-TOP:#b5c4df 1pt solid;BORDER-RIGHT:medium none;PADDING-TOP:3pt"><span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span> "Winn, Sean" <<a href="mailto:Sean.Winn@emc.com" target="_blank">Sean.Winn@emc.com</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span> Tuesday, April 7, 2015 at 10:54 AM<br><span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span> Michael WILLIAMS <<a href="mailto:michael@nuagenetworks.net" target="_blank">michael@nuagenetworks.net</a>>, "Britten, Tyler" <<a href="mailto:Tyler.Britten@emc.com" target="_blank">Tyler.Britten@emc.com</a>>, Dilip Modi <<a href="mailto:dilip.modi@oracle.com" target="_blank">dilip.modi@oracle.com</a>>, "<a href="mailto:enterprise-wg@lists.openstack.org" target="_blank">enterprise-wg@lists.openstack.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:enterprise-wg@lists.openstack.org" target="_blank">enterprise-wg@lists.openstack.org</a>><div><div class="h5"><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span> Re: [Win The Enterprise-wg] PayPal internal private cloud runs on OpenStack<br></div></div></div><div><div class="h5"><div><br></div><div><div style="word-wrap:break-word;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:14px;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><div>I actually do have the inside scoop on this.</div><div><br></div><div>I used to work for a VAR that did their rack builds a few years ago to the tune of 60+ racks delivered annually. We delivered them to the DC floor pre-integrated, Mirantis helped provision them with a flavor of OpenStack that was somewhat built on the
earliest versions of Fuel. At the time I left that company, eBay and PayPal were hard at work building containerized data centers which would change the model completely.</div><div><br></div><div>Mirantis and PayPal had a mutually beneficial relationship at this time. Over time, that relationship changed. In 2011, just before the Summit, Boris Renski (Mirantis) made a statement that PayPal was moving 80,000 servers from VMWare to OpenStack and
had a $2B valuation hit on the VMWare stock overnight. He wasn’t far from the truth, but nobody would have admitted it at that time.</div><div><br></div><div>This slip severely hurt the relationship between the two companies, and it was around this time that PayPal started to look to do things on their own.</div><div><br></div><div>If you search for jobs at PayPal or eBay today, you see they are looking for architects, software engineers and QA engineers to submit blueprints, lead development/design efforts and code within the OpenStack ecosystem to deliver application infrastructure
for the PayPal and eBay teams.</div><div><br></div><div>Last I heard, 4,100 physical boxes in PayPal and 8,500 total (when you combine eBay Marketplace) run on OpenStack.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><span><div style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt;text-align:left;color:black;BORDER-BOTTOM:medium none;BORDER-LEFT:medium none;PADDING-BOTTOM:0in;PADDING-LEFT:0in;PADDING-RIGHT:0in;BORDER-TOP:#b5c4df 1pt solid;BORDER-RIGHT:medium none;PADDING-TOP:3pt"><span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span>Michael Williams <<a href="mailto:michael@nuagenetworks.net" target="_blank">michael@nuagenetworks.net</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 1:07 PM<br><span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>"Britten, Tyler" <<a href="mailto:Tyler.Britten@emc.com" target="_blank">Tyler.Britten@emc.com</a>>, Dilip Modi <<a href="mailto:dilip.modi@oracle.com" target="_blank">dilip.modi@oracle.com</a>>, "<a href="mailto:enterprise-wg@lists.openstack.org" target="_blank">enterprise-wg@lists.openstack.org</a>"
<<a href="mailto:enterprise-wg@lists.openstack.org" target="_blank">enterprise-wg@lists.openstack.org</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re: [Win The Enterprise-wg] PayPal internal private cloud runs on OpenStack<br></div><div><br></div><div><div style="word-wrap:break-word;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:14px;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><div><div><div>Hi Tyler,</div><div>I read the Forbes article for background (<a href="http://www.forbes.com/sites/benkepes/2015/03/24/good-bye-vmware-hello-openstack-paypal-axes-virtualization-giant" target="_blank">http://www.forbes.com/sites/benkepes/2015/03/24/good-bye-vmware-hello-openstack-paypal-axes-virtualization-giant</a>/).
It’s an interesting read for its analysis of the potential impact on VMware. </div><div><br></div><div>Both articles say that PayPal is contributing code to OpenStack. So, it appears that they have an in-house effort rather than buying some one’s distro. However, that is a guess since contributing code doesn’t preclude PayPal from also using someone’s distro
or Mirantis from helping them via consulting. </div><div><br></div><div>All,</div><div>Does anybody have inside scoop? </div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><br></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><font size="3" face="Calibri">Regards,<u></u><u></u></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><font size="3" face="Calibri">Michael</font><font face="Calibri,sans-serif" style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14px;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u><u></u></font></p></div><div><font size="3" face="Calibri"><br></font></div></div></div></div><div><br></div><span><div style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt;text-align:left;color:black;BORDER-BOTTOM:medium none;BORDER-LEFT:medium none;PADDING-BOTTOM:0in;PADDING-LEFT:0in;PADDING-RIGHT:0in;BORDER-TOP:#b5c4df 1pt solid;BORDER-RIGHT:medium none;PADDING-TOP:3pt"><span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span>"Britten, Tyler" <<a href="mailto:Tyler.Britten@emc.com" target="_blank">Tyler.Britten@emc.com</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 12:52 PM<br><span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>Michael WILLIAMS <<a href="mailto:michael@nuagenetworks.net" target="_blank">michael@nuagenetworks.net</a>>, Dilip Modi <<a href="mailto:dilip.modi@oracle.com" target="_blank">dilip.modi@oracle.com</a>>, "<a href="mailto:enterprise-wg@lists.openstack.org" target="_blank">enterprise-wg@lists.openstack.org</a>"
<<a href="mailto:enterprise-wg@lists.openstack.org" target="_blank">enterprise-wg@lists.openstack.org</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re: [Win The Enterprise-wg] PayPal internal private cloud runs on OpenStack<br></div><div><br></div><div><div style="word-wrap:break-word;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:14px;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><div><div><div>I was under the impression that Mirantis was involved.</div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt"><b><span lang="FR" style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:gray"><br></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt"><b><span lang="FR" style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:gray">Tyler Britten<u></u><u></u></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt"><span lang="FR" style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:gray">Principal Technical Marketing Manager</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt"><span lang="FR" style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:gray">Global Cloud Solutions | </span><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:gray">EMC</span><sup><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:gray">2</span></sup></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:gray"><a href="tel:717.448.4057" value="+17174484057" target="_blank">717.448.4057</a></span><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:gray">| <a href="mailto:tyler.britten@emc.com" style="color:purple" target="_blank"><span style="color:blue">tyler.britten@emc.com</span></a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/vmtyler" style="color:purple" target="_blank"><span style="color:blue">@VMTyler</span></a><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt"><br></p></div></div></div></div><div><br></div><span><div style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:12pt;text-align:left;color:black;BORDER-BOTTOM:medium none;BORDER-LEFT:medium none;PADDING-BOTTOM:0in;PADDING-LEFT:0in;PADDING-RIGHT:0in;BORDER-TOP:#b5c4df 1pt solid;BORDER-RIGHT:medium none;PADDING-TOP:3pt"><span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span>Michael Williams<br><span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 3:06 PM<br><span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>Dilip Modi, "<a href="mailto:enterprise-wg@lists.openstack.org" target="_blank">enterprise-wg@lists.openstack.org</a>"<br><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re: [Win The Enterprise-wg] PayPal internal private cloud runs on OpenStack<br></div><div><br></div><div><div style="word-wrap:break-word;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:14px;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><div><div>Hi Dilip,</div><div>The article seems to indicate that it is an in-house effort.</div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><br></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><font size="3" face="Calibri">Regards,<u></u><u></u></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><font size="3" face="Calibri">Michael</font><font face="Calibri,sans-serif" style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14px;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u><u></u></font></p></div><div><font size="3" face="Calibri"><br></font></div></div></div><div><br></div><span><div style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt;text-align:left;color:black;BORDER-BOTTOM:medium none;BORDER-LEFT:medium none;PADDING-BOTTOM:0in;PADDING-LEFT:0in;PADDING-RIGHT:0in;BORDER-TOP:#b5c4df 1pt solid;BORDER-RIGHT:medium none;PADDING-TOP:3pt"><span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span>Dilip Modi <<a href="mailto:dilip.modi@oracle.com" target="_blank">dilip.modi@oracle.com</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Organization: </span>Oracle Corporation<br><span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 11:54 AM<br><span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span><<a href="mailto:enterprise-wg@lists.openstack.org" target="_blank">enterprise-wg@lists.openstack.org</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re: [Win The Enterprise-wg] PayPal internal private cloud runs on OpenStack<br></div><div><br></div><div><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">Yes impressive (also published by Forbes). Would be interesting to know ...<br>
- which OpenStack release is deployed? commercial or built in-house?<br><br>
Thanks<br>
Dilip<br><br><div>On 3/25/2015 11:23 AM, Michael Williams wrote:<br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div><div>All,</div></div></div><span><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><font face="Calibri,sans-serif">Sending just in case people haven’t seen the article yet. Sri Shivananda, Vice President, Global Platform and Infrastructure, PayPal posted an article yesterday to the PayPal community. Their internal private cloud runs
on OpenStack. It’s a nice proof point, see: </font></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri;font-size:medium"><a href="https://www.paypal-community.com/t5/PayPal-Forward/PayPal-s-Front-End-Cloud-Powered-by-OpenStack/ba-p/959621" target="_blank">https://www.paypal-community.com/t5/PayPal-Forward/PayPal-s-Front-End-Cloud-Powered-by-OpenStack/ba-p/959621</a></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14px"><br></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14px"><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:medium">Regards,</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><font face="Calibri" size="3">Michael</font><font style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14px;color:rgb(31,73,125)" face="Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></font></p></div><div><font face="Calibri" size="3"><br></font></div></div></div></span><br><fieldset></fieldset> <br><pre>_______________________________________________
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