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I was the original architect, handling strategy, roadmap and high level
implementation details on the PayPal project while Mirantis was engaged.


On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 11:11 AM, Michael Williams <michael at nuagenetworks.net
> wrote:

> HI Sean,
> Thanks for the inside scoop! Unfortunately, all the VMware – PayPal
> relationship issues are drowning out the key fact that you and a Forbes
> blog post reported: 8,500 servers are being managed by OpenStack. That’s a
> huge scalability proof point!!!
>
> From some other posts, it appears that OpenStack Vancouver will have
> several presentations re PayPal’s use of OpenStack. Hopefully, by then
> enterprises will be receptive to hearing about the capabilities rather than
> the relationship issues.
>
> BTW: Re the $2B hit on VMware stock, Elon Musk put out an optimistic tweet
> a week or so ago that raised Tesla’s valuation by $1 B! See
> http://www.bizjournals.com/sanjose/news/2015/03/31/optimistic-elon-musk-tweet-boosts-tesla-stock.html.
> It’s amazing that just a single statement can have such an effect on stock
> prices …
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Michael
>
>
> From: "Winn, Sean" <Sean.Winn at emc.com>
> Date: Tuesday, April 7, 2015 at 10:54 AM
> To: Michael WILLIAMS <michael at nuagenetworks.net>, "Britten, Tyler" <
> Tyler.Britten at emc.com>, Dilip Modi <dilip.modi at oracle.com>, "
> enterprise-wg at lists.openstack.org" <enterprise-wg at lists.openstack.org>
>
> Subject: Re: [Win The Enterprise-wg] PayPal internal private cloud runs
> on OpenStack
>
> I actually do have the inside scoop on this.
>
> I used to work for a VAR that did their rack builds a few years ago to the
> tune of 60+ racks delivered annually. We delivered them to the DC floor
> pre-integrated, Mirantis helped provision them with a flavor of OpenStack
> that was somewhat built on the earliest versions of Fuel. At the time I
> left that company, eBay and PayPal were hard at work building containerized
> data centers which would change the model completely.
>
> Mirantis and PayPal had a mutually beneficial relationship at this time.
> Over time, that relationship changed. In 2011, just before the Summit,
> Boris Renski (Mirantis) made a statement that PayPal was moving 80,000
> servers from VMWare to OpenStack and had a $2B valuation hit on the VMWare
> stock overnight. He wasn’t far from the truth, but nobody would have
> admitted it at that time.
>
> This slip severely hurt the relationship between the two companies, and it
> was around this time that PayPal started to look to do things on their own.
>
> If you search for jobs at PayPal or eBay today, you see they are looking
> for architects, software engineers and QA engineers to submit blueprints,
> lead development/design efforts and code within the OpenStack ecosystem to
> deliver application infrastructure for the PayPal and eBay teams.
>
> Last I heard, 4,100 physical boxes in PayPal and 8,500 total (when you
> combine eBay Marketplace) run on OpenStack.
>
>
>
> From: Michael Williams <michael at nuagenetworks.net>
> Date: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 1:07 PM
> To: "Britten, Tyler" <Tyler.Britten at emc.com>, Dilip Modi <
> dilip.modi at oracle.com>, "enterprise-wg at lists.openstack.org" <
> enterprise-wg at lists.openstack.org>
> Subject: Re: [Win The Enterprise-wg] PayPal internal private cloud runs
> on OpenStack
>
> Hi Tyler,
> I read the Forbes article for background (
> http://www.forbes.com/sites/benkepes/2015/03/24/good-bye-vmware-hello-openstack-paypal-axes-virtualization-giant/).
> It’s an interesting read for its analysis of the potential impact on
> VMware.
>
> Both articles say that PayPal is contributing code to OpenStack. So, it
> appears that they have an in-house effort rather than buying some one’s
> distro. However, that is a guess since contributing code doesn’t preclude
> PayPal from also using someone’s distro or Mirantis from helping them via
> consulting.
>
> All,
> Does anybody have inside scoop?
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Michael
>
>
> From: "Britten, Tyler" <Tyler.Britten at emc.com>
> Date: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 12:52 PM
> To: Michael WILLIAMS <michael at nuagenetworks.net>, Dilip Modi <
> dilip.modi at oracle.com>, "enterprise-wg at lists.openstack.org" <
> enterprise-wg at lists.openstack.org>
> Subject: Re: [Win The Enterprise-wg] PayPal internal private cloud runs
> on OpenStack
>
> I was under the impression that Mirantis was involved.
>
>
> *Tyler Britten*
>
> Principal Technical Marketing Manager
>
> Global Cloud Solutions | EMC2
>
> 717.448.4057 | tyler.britten at emc.com | @VMTyler
> <https://twitter.com/vmtyler>
>
>
>
> From: Michael Williams
> Date: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 3:06 PM
> To: Dilip Modi, "enterprise-wg at lists.openstack.org"
> Subject: Re: [Win The Enterprise-wg] PayPal internal private cloud runs
> on OpenStack
>
> Hi Dilip,
> The article seems to indicate that it is an in-house effort.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Michael
>
>
> From: Dilip Modi <dilip.modi at oracle.com>
> Organization: Oracle Corporation
> Date: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 11:54 AM
> To: <enterprise-wg at lists.openstack.org>
> Subject: Re: [Win The Enterprise-wg] PayPal internal private cloud runs
> on OpenStack
>
> Yes impressive (also published by Forbes). Would be interesting to know ...
> -  which OpenStack release is deployed? commercial or built in-house?
>
> Thanks
> Dilip
>
> On 3/25/2015 11:23 AM, Michael Williams wrote:
>
> All,
> Sending just in case people haven’t seen the article yet. Sri Shivananda,
> Vice President, Global Platform and Infrastructure, PayPal posted an
> article yesterday to the PayPal community. Their internal private cloud
> runs on OpenStack. It’s a nice proof point, see:
>
> https://www.paypal-community.com/t5/PayPal-Forward/PayPal-s-Front-End-Cloud-Powered-by-OpenStack/ba-p/959621
>
> Regards,
>
> Michael
>
>
>
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Jason Venner
Vice President and Chief Architect
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