[Win The Enterprise-wg] PayPal internal private cloud runs on OpenStack

Michael Williams michael at nuagenetworks.net
Tue Apr 7 18:11:03 UTC 2015


HI Sean,
Thanks for the inside scoop! Unfortunately, all the VMware ­ PayPal
relationship issues are drowning out the key fact that you and a Forbes blog
post reported: 8,500 servers are being managed by OpenStack. That¹s a huge
scalability proof point!!!

>From some other posts, it appears that OpenStack Vancouver will have several
presentations re PayPal¹s use of OpenStack. Hopefully, by then enterprises
will be receptive to hearing about the capabilities rather than the
relationship issues.

BTW: Re the $2B hit on VMware stock, Elon Musk put out an optimistic tweet a
week or so ago that raised Tesla¹s valuation by $1 B! See
http://www.bizjournals.com/sanjose/news/2015/03/31/optimistic-elon-musk-twee
t-boosts-tesla-stock.html. It¹s amazing that just a single statement can
have such an effect on stock prices Š


Regards,
Michael


From:  "Winn, Sean" <Sean.Winn at emc.com>
Date:  Tuesday, April 7, 2015 at 10:54 AM
To:  Michael WILLIAMS <michael at nuagenetworks.net>, "Britten, Tyler"
<Tyler.Britten at emc.com>, Dilip Modi <dilip.modi at oracle.com>,
"enterprise-wg at lists.openstack.org" <enterprise-wg at lists.openstack.org>
Subject:  Re: [Win The Enterprise-wg] PayPal internal private cloud runs on
OpenStack

I actually do have the inside scoop on this.

I used to work for a VAR that did their rack builds a few years ago to the
tune of 60+ racks delivered annually. We delivered them to the DC floor
pre-integrated, Mirantis helped provision them with a flavor of OpenStack
that was somewhat built on the earliest versions of Fuel. At the time I left
that company, eBay and PayPal were hard at work building containerized data
centers which would change the model completely.

Mirantis and PayPal had a mutually beneficial relationship at this time.
Over time, that relationship changed. In 2011, just before the Summit, Boris
Renski (Mirantis) made a statement that PayPal was moving 80,000 servers
from VMWare to OpenStack and had a $2B valuation hit on the VMWare stock
overnight. He wasn¹t far from the truth, but nobody would have admitted it
at that time.

This slip severely hurt the relationship between the two companies, and it
was around this time that PayPal started to look to do things on their own.

If you search for jobs at PayPal or eBay today, you see they are looking for
architects, software engineers and QA engineers to submit blueprints, lead
development/design efforts and code within the OpenStack ecosystem to
deliver application infrastructure for the PayPal and eBay teams.

Last I heard, 4,100 physical boxes in PayPal and 8,500 total (when you
combine eBay Marketplace) run on OpenStack.



From: Michael Williams <michael at nuagenetworks.net>
Date: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 1:07 PM
To: "Britten, Tyler" <Tyler.Britten at emc.com>, Dilip Modi
<dilip.modi at oracle.com>, "enterprise-wg at lists.openstack.org"
<enterprise-wg at lists.openstack.org>
Subject: Re: [Win The Enterprise-wg] PayPal internal private cloud runs on
OpenStack

Hi Tyler,
I read the Forbes article for background
(http://www.forbes.com/sites/benkepes/2015/03/24/good-bye-vmware-hello-opens
tack-paypal-axes-virtualization-giant/). It¹s an interesting read for its
analysis of the potential impact on VMware.

Both articles say that PayPal is contributing code to OpenStack. So, it
appears that they have an in-house effort rather than buying some one¹s
distro. However, that is a guess since contributing code doesn¹t preclude
PayPal from also using someone¹s distro or Mirantis from helping them via
consulting. 

All,
Does anybody have inside scoop?


Regards,
Michael


From: "Britten, Tyler" <Tyler.Britten at emc.com>
Date: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 12:52 PM
To: Michael WILLIAMS <michael at nuagenetworks.net>, Dilip Modi
<dilip.modi at oracle.com>, "enterprise-wg at lists.openstack.org"
<enterprise-wg at lists.openstack.org>
Subject: Re: [Win The Enterprise-wg] PayPal internal private cloud runs on
OpenStack

I was under the impression that Mirantis was involved.


Tyler Britten
Principal Technical Marketing Manager
Global Cloud Solutions | EMC2
717.448.4057 | tyler.britten at emc.com <mailto:tyler.britten at emc.com>  |
@VMTyler <https://twitter.com/vmtyler>


From: Michael Williams
Date: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 3:06 PM
To: Dilip Modi, "enterprise-wg at lists.openstack.org"
Subject: Re: [Win The Enterprise-wg] PayPal internal private cloud runs on
OpenStack

Hi Dilip,
The article seems to indicate that it is an in-house effort.


Regards,
Michael


From: Dilip Modi <dilip.modi at oracle.com>
Organization: Oracle Corporation
Date: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 11:54 AM
To: <enterprise-wg at lists.openstack.org>
Subject: Re: [Win The Enterprise-wg] PayPal internal private cloud runs on
OpenStack

Yes impressive (also published by Forbes). Would be interesting to know ...
-  which OpenStack release is deployed? commercial or built in-house?

Thanks
Dilip

On 3/25/2015 11:23 AM, Michael Williams wrote:
> All,
> Sending just in case people haven¹t seen the article yet. Sri Shivananda, Vice
> President, Global Platform and Infrastructure, PayPal posted an article
> yesterday to the PayPal community. Their internal private cloud runs on
> OpenStack. It¹s a nice proof point, see:
> https://www.paypal-community.com/t5/PayPal-Forward/PayPal-s-Front-End-Cloud-Po
> wered-by-OpenStack/ba-p/959621
> 
> Regards,
> Michael
> 
> 
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