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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">We have seen good results from the voter information campaigns from the 1<sup>st</sup> year to the 2<sup>nd</sup> year and I feel
that the trend will continue. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">There is a need to make the electorate sensitive to their responsibilities but also to not raise the bar too high in terms of effort
to vote (thus losing some highly involved, but busy, people).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> Jim Jagielski [mailto:jimjag@gmail.com]
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<b>Sent:</b> 15 October 2013 20:41<br>
<b>To:</b> Tim Bell<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Simon Anderson; elections-committee@lists.openstack.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Elections-committee] Draft STV Briefing Paper for Committee Review<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">That is right, but in that case the user has basically "thrown away" their vote. If their candidate was already going to win, then their vote is moot; Instead, what should be focused on is voter education. It results in a somewhat different
mind-set which most voters feel *more* liberated about...<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">You could require that they submit at least the number of votes that correspond to the number of open slots; but that's an implementation issue.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Tim Bell <<a href="mailto:Tim.Bell@cern.ch" target="_blank">Tim.Bell@cern.ch</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Jim,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thus, my understanding of both Condorcet and STV is that if we do not require a complete ranking,
we could up with concerns that the “bullet” scenario could occur (i.e. single candidate votes) despite the change of algorithm.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">If we require voting for ALL candidates, we could be asking 10K+ people to order 20+ people which
may risk some random voting patterns to complete the form.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">
Jim Jagi-elski [mailto:<a href="mailto:jimjag@gmail.com" target="_blank">jimjag@gmail.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> 15 October 2013 18:56<br>
<b>To:</b> Tim Bell<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Simon Anderson; <a href="mailto:elections-committee@lists.openstack.org" target="_blank">
elections-committee@lists.openstack.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Elections-committee] Draft STV Briefing Paper for Committee Review</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">All of the STV systems the ASF looked at and used (and developed) do not require ranking all candidates when casting a vote. Nor is it a requirement of STV itself.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 12:36 PM, Tim Bell <<a href="mailto:Tim.Bell@cern.ch" target="_blank">Tim.Bell@cern.ch</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Simon,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Could you clarify whether there is an STV system which does not require ranking all candidates (45
in the last round) and would require at least N votes (to ensure reasonable consideration) but does not require all candidates to be ranked ?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">This would avoid the “bullet vote” mentioned in
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_transferable_vote" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_transferable_vote</a>, require a reasonable level of education by the electorate (i.e. not just choose the nearest affiliation but also allow
a vote to be cast in a reasonable time by ranking your top M candidates where M > N) ?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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Simon Anderson [mailto:<a href="mailto:simon@dreamhost.com" target="_blank">simon@dreamhost.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> 15 October 2013 10:16<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:elections-committee@lists.openstack.org" target="_blank">
elections-committee@lists.openstack.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Elections-committee] Draft STV Briefing Paper for Committee Review</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Look forward to discussing and refining it with you all today, on and after the election committee call.<br clear="all">
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Simon Anderson<br>
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