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    Jim,<br>
    <br>
    I did have discussions around LSB with people in the community who
    were concerned that we'd "fail like LSB." <br>
    <br>
    My understanding is that LSB is more focused on patterns and
    conventions around Linux.  DefCore took a more test focused approach
    that allows users to validate vendor compliance.  User
    self-validation and reporting is a key component for DefCore.<br>
    <br>
    In both cases, success requires users to demand compliance from the
    vendors.  I don't think you can govern from the Foundation alone.<br>
    <br>
    Rob<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/02/2015 01:35 PM, Chris Hoge
      wrote:<br>
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      <div id="magicdomid48" class="" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px;"><span
          class="" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; cursor: auto;
          background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">If we do DefCore
          correctly, it will become a boring standard that</span></div>
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          class="" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; cursor: auto;
          background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">is easy to enforce
          because it is easy to deploy upstream while</span></div>
      <div id="magicdomid50" class="" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px;"><span
          class="" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; cursor: auto;
          background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">tracking how the
          needs of the community is expressed through the</span></div>
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          class="" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; cursor: auto;
          background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">evolving APIs
          (which themselves take time to be successfully</span></div>
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          class="" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; cursor: auto;
          background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">deployed and
          adopted).</span></div>
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Rob
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