<div dir="ltr">Mark, on first pass, I see the merit of the Program approach and detail you have described. I'd also like to hear thoughts on Tim's question.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><br>Best,</div><div>Simon<br></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Mark Collier <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mark@openstack.org" target="_blank">mark@openstack.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div>Background:<br><br>On a day to day basis, Foundation employees manage the various trademark license Programs (working with our trademark attorneys as needed). A “Program” provides a license for use of the trademarks in commercial contexts, executed between a company in the ecosystem and the Foundation, specific to a product or service. Note: There are multiple Programs (e.g. “OpenStack Powered”, “OpenStack Powered Storage”, “OpenStack Training”).<br><br>A Program typically includes access to a particular commercial-use logo (e.g. “OpenStack Powered”) and some ability to use the word “OpenStack” in the product name and marketing collateral (this is known as the “wordmark” in legalese). A signed contract is required, and there are technical requirements to qualify which include API Capabilities inclusion of specific upstream code (a la Designated Sections).<br><br>Now that we’re nearing the end of the initial DefCore committee work for Havana, the Board felt it was a good time for the Foundation staff to look at how we might map the DefCore Capabilities and Designated Code to existing or new licensing Programs. Jonathan and I are working on a proposal for the October 20th Board Meeting and want as much input as possible prior.<br><br>This mapping will give everyone another level of understanding regarding how the DefCore components will play out in the market under such Programs, and ultimately give the Board something that they’re confident voting for to move this to implementation phase soon.<br><br>Note that while the Board DID approve the Havana Capabilities in the July Board meeting, they did not approve the proposed update in the September Board meeting, citing various concerns, including the status of Swift and a lack of clarity about how the requirements would play out with our trademark licensees. I believe that by illustrating the different Programs that we would expect to implement with respect to the DefCore work, along with some tweaks to the Designated Sections themselves, we can all get on the same page. We are very close.<br><br>What you’ll see is in practice it’s not an either/or thing with Swift because we have more than one Program to address different markets and choices. Multiple Programs is not a new concept.<br><br>For the purposes of this email I’m going to focus on the “OpenStack Powered” Programs, summarize the requirements and benefits today, then suggest a way that we could map the DefCore output to the two existing programs in a practical way, while adding a third program to address a specific use case. All without creating any more logos. <br><br>I believe this proposal can address the many different stakeholders' input to date, the incredible work of DefCore, TC and community input, while keeping true to our goal of improving interoperability.<br><br>Note: I strongly advise you check the Google Doc version because a table is a lot easier to follow: <br><a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WHVGwIxLSB0Dh9xVntxO5faM4pJjTe0yM0JwpsLUebA/edit?usp=sharing" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WHVGwIxLSB0Dh9xVntxO5faM4pJjTe0yM0JwpsLUebA/edit?usp=sharing</a><br><br>“OpenStack Powered” Programs today:<br>1) Program Name: OpenStack Powered<br> Requirements: Nova and Swift code included, Nova and Swift APIs exposed<br> Benefits: Can use “OpenStack Powered” logo, can use “OpenStack” in product name within guidelines<br>2) Program Name: OpenStack Powered Storage <br> Requirements: Swift code included and Swift APIs exposed<br> Benefits: Can use “OpenStack Powered” logo, can use “OpenStack Storage” in product name within guidelines<br><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>• Note: Has more restrictive rights, such a requirement to include “Storage” qualifier in product marketing<br><br>Future Programs mapped to DefCore<br>1) Program Name: OpenStack Powered Platform<br><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>• Requirements: All Capabilities required by Defcore, All Designated Sections from Defcore, Pass Tests<br> Benefits: Can use “OpenStack Powered” logo, can use “OpenStack” in product name within guidelines — has broadest rights to use the name, such a “ACME OpenStack” for a distro and “ACME OpenStack Cloud” for a public cloud service<br>2) Program Name: OpenStack Powered Storage<br> Requirements: All object storage specific Capabilities from Defcore, all Swift specific Designated Sections from Defcore, Pass Tests<br> Benefits: Can use “OpenStack Powered” logo, can use “OpenStack” in product name within guidelines.<br> Note: Has more restrictive rights, such as requirement to include “Storage” qualifier in product marketing<br><br>3) Program Name: OpenStack Powered Compute<br> Requirements: All compute specific Capabilities from Defcore, all Nova, Glance, Cinder specific Designated Sections from Defcore, Pass Tests<br> Benefits: Can use “OpenStack Powered” logo, can use “OpenStack” in product name within guidelines<br> Note: Has more restrictive rights, such as requirement to include “Compute” qualifier in product marketing.<br><br>*For implementation, Defcore would need to group subsets of the overall output. For example:<br><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>• Platform - no need to group as this is the superset. Suggest adding Swift Designated Sections for Havana based on input from September, and Keystone in Icehouse/Juno based on user input from Das Kamhout & Tim Bell)<br><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>• Storage - subset focused on Object Storage Capabilities and Designated Sections<br><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>• Compute - subset including the Nova, Glance, Cinder for Havana. Suggest adding others as they are included in future releases (e.g. Keystone)<br><br>All of this is also captured in a Google doc that is frankly more readable due to the table and formatting:<br><a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WHVGwIxLSB0Dh9xVntxO5faM4pJjTe0yM0JwpsLUebA/edit?usp=sharing" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WHVGwIxLSB0Dh9xVntxO5faM4pJjTe0yM0JwpsLUebA/edit?usp=sharing</a></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><br><div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div class="h5"><div>On Sep 27, 2014, at 6:09 AM, <a href="mailto:Rob_Hirschfeld@Dell.com" target="_blank">Rob_Hirschfeld@Dell.com</a> wrote:</div><br></div></div><div><div><div class="h5"><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)">To clarify, Mark Collier. We have a lot of Marks working on marks.<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></div><div style="border-style:none none none solid;border-left-color:blue;border-left-width:1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4pt"><div><div style="border-style:solid none none;border-top-color:rgb(181,196,223);border-top-width:1pt;padding:3pt 0in 0in"><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><a name="148ccddbc00dbd88______replyseparator"></a><b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"><span> </span>Hirschfeld, Rob<span> </span><br><b>Sent:</b><span> </span>Saturday, September 27, 2014 12:20 AM<br><b>To:</b><span> </span><a href="mailto:Defcore-committee@lists.openstack.org" target="_blank">Defcore-committee@lists.openstack.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span> </span>[OpenStack-DefCore] progress - met w/ Foundation<u></u><u></u></span></div></div></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">DefCore,<u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Since we’re time sensitive, I wanted to let you know that I had a working session with the Foundation staff Friday. Alan and Troy also participated.<u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">We laid out a some options that Mark will review on the list next week. I think it was a very positive and productive discussion. I’m optimistic that we have some good suggestions that will address the concerns raised by the Board.<u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Also, I’d like to thank those of you who reached out 1x1 after the last Board meeting.<u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Trebuchet MS',sans-serif;color:rgb(68,68,68)">Rob<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Trebuchet MS',sans-serif;color:rgb(68,68,68)">______________________________<u></u><u></u></span></b></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 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